Sam Fulwood and I had a simple idea behind "Cleveland Cafe" ... to provide a platform for opinions and voices not often heard on television. If people find it interesting and worthwhile, we hope to produce more "CCs". Of course, the Cleveland Cafe is not just one place. We were lucky enough this first time out to shoot at Fahrenheit in Tremont; maybe next time it will be at a sports bar or a diner. We're already thinking about who might pull up a seat at the round table for the next Cleveland Cafe. We truly welcome your comments -- and thanks for watching! Tim White
I like the idea of this forum and the range of people you've asked to join the conversation in terms of ages and "professional expertise."
Perhaps next time, some more thought can be given to racial as well as socio-economic diversity, although of course, the individual quality of the people should be the most important.
I think both Sam Fulwood and Tim White were good at moderating and spurring conversation along and will look forward to future episodes.
Perhaps a panel made up solely of implants from somewhere else? Might be an deeper exploration of some of the points touched on on 2/18.
Thank you! I am new to Cleveland and I see the same things you were talking about. It was such a good show and concept that I missed Sportscenter.(haha) Please do this again. Topics good and relevant.
best local "news" show i can ever remember. do it about once a month. i'll host one in my bay village home (i cook good pasta dishes). the two women were incredibly insightful
BRAVO! I am so glad to see an intelligent talk show for Clevelanders. I loved the forum and the diverse group. I do wish, however, you would focus on one topic rather than skip about. I look forward to the next show.
It is good to have the round table format with the vast majority of the participants being from the suburbs, other cities and not attending Cleveland schools. I would like to see people from Cleveland, talking about how to improve Cleveland. We always forget about the poor and the gang member that feel slighted by the goals of Cleveland. There is a group who meet on Tues. at the Lonnie Burten Center that represent the real Cleveland. If you want to know what need to be done in Cleveland, come to a meeting. Mind you this is poor people, gang members and pertaining talking about what the city of Cleveland mean to them. Great show, but you need real people.
I enjoyed the show. I think there was a very important eliment that was 'almost' touched upon, but it seems like people are afraid to speak on VOCATIONAL education!! Rocco has the answer, and we must give our young people something within the area of education to strive for. If they have something like a trade or skill to work with after graduation, then I'm sure we would find more people staying in Cleveland and the outlining areas. This city is too big, and has too much to offer, to have to import people to build OUR city!! Train our kids to become electricians...plumbers...brick-masons...carpenters..chefs..hotel managers....and so on. After all there are many that don't want to spend four years in college, and have nothing to work with after completion of their course of study. There are some that are not college material, but have an ardent desire to have a money making skill/trade!!!
My wife and I are both teachers and really enjoyed the discussion on your 2-18-06 show. I particularily liked your last statement, Tim, and have believed this for quite some time. The positive presentation of our city should start with the media. Also, my wife suggested that it would have been nice to have an educator present at the dinner. Mabey next time. We look forward to the next show and hope that all of the wonderful points do not stop with conversation. These topics have value and results cannot be accomplished without action.
I'm flabbergasted! Something other than "reality" pulp on commercial TV. Well done first show. I don't think that Tim & Sam will have to dig for topics or guests; this area, State, Nation keep creating new problems every day.
Please don't cave in to "special interests" to keep discussions watered down.
My wife and I really enjoyed this show! We both felt the format, and invited guests made for a great cross-section of our city.
Alothough we do not live in Cleveland proper, all of the surrounding communities in someway live and die with Cleveland.
We both think the show needs to be longer than 30 minutes. Both of you, and your guests obviously had more to say, and we would have liked to hear each have a chance to expand upon (or challange) the comments presented.
Second, I am extremely excited to see how diverse the panel was. From the News Anchor, to the Columnist, all the way to a High Schooler. Wonderful program, wonderful format!
I don"t live in cleveland but i enjoyed your very imformative show. I think it is a good format for the people of cleveland to get together and start working towards making the hole city better.
i think this show has potential to be provocative, but there is a chance it will fall to the "closeminded cleveland elite" that runs this city. i see this show being more like a forum for commentary rather than a tool for change simply because the elite forces of this city wants to maintain status quo.
i will try to support the show, but cleveland is doomed to be a second-tier city, mainly because of the lack of jobs and the poor education of its citizens.
I watched your show, and could not belive my eye's. You raise your wine glass'es in the presents of a high schooler. Now you know what is wrong with Cleveland and your rotten show. What were you thinking??????
I enjoyed the show very much. I don't usually watch local talk shows. I liked the mix of people very much. I think you should have people from the "trenches" next time....a very experienced social worker from one of the neighorhood centers, a nurse from one of the neighborhood medical clinics, an artist who works in the schools with kids, a coach for midnight basketball. These people can share SUCCESS stories and the SPIRIT of the people. Also....
Tim was RIGHT ON when he implied that the media so often emphasizes the negative and not the positive in our community. So many of us in the Cleveland community know we are living an "inferiority complex" and it is programs like yours that will give our community the Attaboys and Attagirls it needs to believe in itself again. Without a boost of confidence and demonstrating through the power of the media the wonderful assets and blessings of our community, the struggle to make a Cleveland the BEST location in the nation will certainly continue to be very difficult.
Thank you for this new show, an opportunity showcase the best of who we are and what we dream our community to become!
(If you want some specific people that I have in mind suggested, please send me an email and I will give you names and numbers of the people I call "heroes" of our community.)
I just happened to catch Cleveland Cafe tonight. I really enjoyed the discussions because I am a Cleveland middle school teacher who deals with students who are not prepared for school or life for that matter. Many of my students see their lives going nowhere except either to the streets or the cemetary. I do however have a few who want out of the projects and the ghetto and want to be what society considers "normal" and productive citizens. Please continue these wonderful discussions and hopefully people will be moved to act and get this city on the right track instead of sitting around complaining about it.
An elegant, classy, time-tested, and enticing venue for CC may be at La Fiesta in Richmond Heights. Tony Valle, the owner, would make an excellent guest as well as her son Jim, who tends the bar there. Jimmy often moderates great conversation between typically unmet A-type personalities. Great first show, CC! Future guest ideas: a director from Tri-C's Corporate College; Michael De Aloia, Cleveland's "tech czar"; Rep. Kucinich, or Rep. Tubbs-Jones; the editor of Blue-Eyez Talent Magazine, and a CEO from one of any Cleveland-based startups (look for Plumb Technologies, Inc., wink-wink!)
I'm sitting here watching your program. I turned it on because you were talking about Cleveland. One by one, most of you went round the table with these wonderful solutions for Cleveland, admitting you want to be in Cleveland, you live in the suburbs, and you think about Cleveland as some regional project. I heard only one member of your group admit to being a Clevelander and he went to Mentor schools. I'm not putting down your insights or your lack of a direct, living here connection to Cleveland, you have sincere motivation, a depth of understanding and some great solutions. But if you are really going to resolve the issues of this city, you need to understand the people of this city. Why have we left the city generation after generation? Why do the folks on the east side not visit the west side or vice versa? It is not enough to simply note or bemoan the phenomena. You want to really change Cleveland, move back into her heart, be quiet for a while and listen to what your neighbors are really saying. Try real hard to learn and not to teach. You'll be surprised at what you can accomplish. Do you want a better Cleveland. It's like making a pot of coffee. One measure for each cup, and one extra for the pot.
What a bad idea for a first show. A panel of motly White affluent suburbanites talking about what is wrong with the city of Cleveland. What's wrong with this show is that these people don't really know anything about cleveland. Has the teenager on the panel ever spent time in a Cleveland neighborhood? Has he ever been inside a city school or talked to a Cleveland teenager? If the panelist cared about the city, they would be living here.
What's wrong with Cleveland is people like your panel who benefit from all the good the city has to offer , but run to the suburbs to hide from the city's problems. What's wrong with Cleveland schools is their children are not in them. When will we learn that we can not take the best and brightest out of the city and school system and expect the least of us to success. I am sick of Cleveland's problems being defined by people who choose not to be part of the soulution.
I just finished watching this new program and really enjoyed it. The informal format is good and the comments and ideas of the diverse guests were excellent. One thought (I think Tim White put this forth) I found particularly interesting was about how local news programs present a dramatic perception of Cleveland. Rarely do I watch local news because the stories presented are negative and depressing. In fact, wkyc news this evening lead with two violent stories so I turned off the program. Did nothing positive happen in Cleveland today? What not lead with that? Anyhow, back to the point. I believe the local news programs could do much to improve Cleveland's image to it's residents and Cleveland Cafe is a very good start! Let's hope this attitude spreads to other stations and, indeed, to your own news programming.
Tim and Sam... Great concept and was very inspired by your first show. Truly believe that there are more issues out there to keep your cafe going. Consider talking about how city/county and other prominent officials corrupt this county we live in. A friend of mine attempted to correct problems in the county government. He is known as the Cuyahoga County Whistle Blower that went against the corrupt politician that serves as our Auditor. Because of his concerns of illegalities he was fired and a year later he is still fighting them even though the drinkers on county time have there jobs back. ( MONEY TALKS) Let's get this out in the open with this show. It is an excellent neutral forum. Contact the whistleblower @ www.whistleblowernet.com. Sam will probably be held back by his management team due to the fact that the PD recieved a nice tax credit by the auditor. But if you are true to this show we will see.
I was exceedingly impressed by the format, content and collegiality of the first show. I can't add much, except to say schools, schools, schools. I live in Geauga County, which I suppose makes me an outsider. But I have practiced law in Cleveland for 25 years. Our son attends Benedictine. I have been immersed (and paid a lot of taxes) in Clevleand for a long time. Keep the dialogue going. I believe yuor show will do good and produce results. Congratulations to Sam, Tim, Dr. Lolita, Angela, Aaron and Rocco. Well done.
We thouroughly enjoyed the show and wish you would have a one hour version. I think it was most informative and would have more value if better advertised and at the same time each week. We have long needed a show of this quality and mix of people. Nina & Earl Dailey South Euclid, OH
This is the most intellegent locally produced show (not on PBS) Cleveland has seen in years. We liked the mix of diners and appreciated the lack of local politicians spouting usual laments. We found ourselves discussing your issues right along and regretting not being able to interject. We also found the time up without once reaching to the remote to surf. It could go an hour with no problem. Real discourse of issues without a political spin is way overdue. Good Work.
Congratulations on a great concept. It is good to see a media outlet like wkyc tackling real issues that are meaningful for the greater cleveland area. You and your guests were honest and spoke their minds and I appreciate the candor. This show is a great opportunity for people to express and explore the thoughts and opinions of other Cleveland residents.
I would encourage you in future shows to carefully examine a specific problem in each show in depth and really work through those issues. Best of luck and keep up the good work.
I was exceedingly impressed by the first show and by Tim, Sam, Dr. Lolita, Angela, Aaron and Rocco. Great format. I don't have a lot to add, except schools, schools, schools. I have practiced law in Cleveland and this area for 25 years. I live in geauga County, but I hope that doesn't disqualify me from sounding off. I have been immersed in Cleveland for a long time. Our son attends Benedictine. We're here for the long haul.
Keep up the good dialogue. Best wishes for the future.
I am a 72 year old woman who lived in and around Cleveland all my life and loved the show tonight. I have always felt such pride in the Ceveland Orchestra and other cultural aspects of Cleveland. Studied at the Cleveland Institute of Music. The different thoughts brought forth by different age groups were so interesting. I hope this show will continue to become aired!
I caught your show tonight and really enjoyed it. I think I enjoyed it so much because I am a Cleveland middle school teacher who deals with students who are not always school ready. Many of them see no way out except the streets or the cemetary. There are some who try very hard to get out of the projects and be what society considers "normal" productive citizens. I hope this show will get people to start helping make changes instead of just complaining.
I caught only the last 15 minutes...but what a creative, innovative show! I must praise the young high school gentleman for his forthright ideas and not being intimidated by the adults. The single most important issue for Cleveland is quality education of the children. It is outrageous that we waste so much time, energy and most of all money on professional sports teams while the real future of our city goes wanting. I wish that at some future airing of this show...and I certainly hope you will set this in motion...that Father Welsh previously President of St. Ignatius High School would be asked to join the round table. He is brilliant, articulate and has some tremendous insights about our youth. Thank you for making this forum available!
THANK YOU ,WKYC ,FOR OFFERING YOUR NORTHERN OHIO VIEWERS THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIT IN WITH THE "CLEVELAND CAFE" PANEL. I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR NEXT MEETING...JACK
I poked my head in to hear what you all had to say ... I found myself wanting to join in your conversations! I like the idea of bringing in regular folks to discuss our local issues. Sam brought up a good future topic ~ regionalism. Good job ... I'll keep watching!
Great Show!!! As everyone stated in their last 30 seconds, education is the key. I think Rocco Whalen (sp) is right on with his "gesture" of contributing a portion of his income to help fund books, supplies, etc. As a business owner (from Westlake), I would be very interested in contributing as well. I truly believe that we are not alone in our feelings. But being from the "right", I believe that there should be conditions. If I had thirty seconds... Develop a donation fund to help educate those that are less fortunate. Anyone that is on government assistance with children should be made to take "classes" for career training. This could be funded by the "public fund" Rocco mentioned.
I caught the show for the first time today and I love it! It is very refreshing to see Clevelanders discussing the pros and cons of the city in the city. I am a native Clevelander who has lived outside of the city for 7 years and I'm back to stay! Please continue to have young people on the show as you will find they can be very insightful.
My daughters and I truly enjoyed the program for a Saturday evening.I would like to see the successful African American high schoolers, especially the males, that you do not see/read about in the media on the show.
what a great idea! i hope many clevelanders and suburbanites watch...and then begin to examine and EXPRESS their own ideas and opinions. I think the show will get people talking and motivated. Right now I feel like alot of us are just so down about the city and the school system that we are all in a holding pattern. Thanks for getting us to LOOK again.
what a great idea! i hope many clevelanders and suburbanites watch...and then begin to examine and EXPRESS their own ideas and opinions. I think the show will get people talking and motivated. Right now I feel like alot of us are just so down about the city and the school system that we are all in a holding pattern. Thanks for getting us to LOOK again.
My husband and I moved to the Cleveland area about two years ago. We moved from another area, Birmingham, Al, which suffers from chronic low self-esteem. We have found Cleveland to be a wonderful place to live and raise our family. We take advantage of the MetroParks, the CVSR, the museums, and the zoo. Cleveland has so much to offer that I find myself discouraged by the number of Cleveanders who put down the area. We did decide to move to the suburbs because education is important to us. Before moving to Cleveland, I worked in schools that served poor and upper middle class neighborhoods. The contrast between the two is night and day. Unfortuanately, in the schools that served poorer neighborhoods, children who were at grade level did not get much attention, because the teachers were too busy provding remedial instruction to the rest of the class. I would like to know what can we do to help Cleveland and the Cleveland Schools as people who live in the suburbs. We know that for the area to thrive, the city needs to. I would also like to hear from some college students (Case, CSU, etc.) about what attracted them to Cleveland and about what can the area do to keep them here.
Awesome!!!! The time slot isn't very good. I just happen to leave the T.V. on and sit down to grab a bite myself. The subject matter about children and young parents is something we need to address (yesterday). I really like what Tim said about the media I hate watching the news and hearing about all the muders etc lets put on some more positive things.
Who is Angela Calman, what business does she own and why is she leaving Cleveland? She made it sound like there is no real opportunity here and it seemed she had a sense of urgency in leaving Cleveland. She may not have been the best guess on a show that was talking about what's right with Cleveland. The show starated out saying more people within the city need to recognize all the great things Greater Cleveland has to offer to both its residents and visitors as well, but ended up pointing fingers.
AS far as education is concerned, primary education begins at home. The parent(s) are supposed to teach the children right from wrong and read books to them when the little - that just doesn't happen in MOST households any longer. My wife is the secretary for our local school and she often comes home with stories about the parents. They refuse to admit their child could have acted badly in school or that he/she is a poor student and will goes as far as to threaten the teachers if the teacher fails their child. And today, a teacher cannot "flunk" a student, that is, hold them back a grade, if the parent doesn't agree to it. The major problem today is that the parent(s), young or old, refuse to take ANY responsibility for the education of their children. The big question is how do you get parents who don't care about the education of their children to do a 180 and get involved.
My husband and I just happened upon the show this evening (February 18, 2006), and we were impressed and intrigued by what we saw. We found ourselves roped in by the conversation and were disappointed when the show ended after 30 minutes. In fact, "Cleveland Cafe" stimulated a discussion of our own as to why we live in Cleveland and what we can do about the state of the city's public schools.
How does one become a participant?
Keep up the good work! Paul and Meghan Breitzmann Shaker Heights
I watched for the first time on February 17. I`d just like to say that I thought the show was fascinating! Tim White and Sam Fulwood have a terrific idea. One thing regarding the Cleveland Public Schools that I did not hear discussed. I understand that most of the Vocational Training programs in the schools have been discontinued. I would suggest why not revive these? We have to realize that not all kids are college material and some are simply not interested in college. But training at school in a vocation such as welding or carpentry, sheet metal, etc. could teach them a trade and they could make good money (I understand welders do very well!). They could then support a family and have a good future. John in Shaker Heights
I liked the show alot. I am an educator in a very diverse suburb. I experience much of the same with parenting issues or better said, parents who were never shown or taught how to properly parent. To help make the schools better we need to get to the parenting aspects. If the parents are invested in their kids, then they will invest in the schools.
Wow!!! How are you supposed to get a good education when you are scared to go to school? Whether it is someone making fun of you for the clothes you wear or the spoiled girl kicking you because you are walking in front of her to get off the school bus...I don't feel education is the place to start...I feel the place to start is in the home...we need to get back to the values of life...the parents need to take back control...RIGHT NOW THE KIDS HAVE THE CONTROL...where and when did the parents loose control? Our neighbors children are out of control...I sit back and watch the children of today's society verbally push their parents until the parents have finally given up...then what...our society is being ran by a bunch of punks...where are the pleases and thank you's? where are the children holding the doors for old ladies? We need to hold our children accountable for their actions and we need to get back to the way things used to be...once we as parents have gained the control back behind our 4 walls at home we then can educate our children in a school system...then the teachers don't have to be afraid...where students can go and learn and not have to worry about being made fun of...where there isn't so much competition on the kind of car you drive or the clothes you wear or the neigborhood you live in...then learning becomes fun and your child will want to be there. I live in a middle class neighboorhood in Medina County...neither my husband or myself have our college degrees but my husband is working on his (hats off to him)...we are teaching our children to focus on treating others like you want to be treated...we are teaching them to respect themselves...we are teaching them the morals that we were brought up with...My children earn an allowance and then they are allowed to make choices what to spend their money on...sometimes it is spent on wants...sometimes it is spent on needs...we choose what T.V. shows they watch...we choose what music they listen to...there is so much negative in the media and the choices of music is horrible...I am also not against having campaigns regarding abstenance. I feel we are already in a tail spin of children having children...these are the same people who have come from bad home lives and they are breeding without education to correct their situation...it is okay to educate them...help them correct their situation...give people jobs...sometimes people have down falls and don't know where to start to get out...Let's help people stay in Cleveland by starting the process in our homes then schools and so on.
Thank you, WKYC, for this enlightening idea. It was a pleasure to watch this stimulating program.
The conversation was courteous, intelligent, and thoughtful. Each of the participants represented their interests with a refreshing deference to differing opinions.
Tim's comments regarding the media were particularly poignant. I rarely watch television, and read the Plain Dealer only occasionally. I agree with the perception that we are perpetually bombarded with negative images and information. While I do not advocate blind allegience to whomever sits as head of this city, there has to be a voice to trumpet all the great things this town has to offer.
The discussion of problems is certainly welcome - - particularly in this warm, friendly manner - - but could we see a discussion of the great things happening today that are helping to solve the problems? there are programs that are in place or in the works that give us some sense of moving toward a greater future for this wonderful home. Let's hear about them. There are people who are working to make this an even more beautiful place. Let's hear from them, too.
Clevelanders are just waiting for something to celebrate. It's not a world series, or a super bowl, or an NBA championship that matters, thought it would help, but the willingness to believe that we live in the best location in the nation.
Thanks again for an oasis of calm, thoughtful discussion in a town known more for its heated discussions.
Enjoyed your round table discussion. My concerns are with early childhood education and parenting support for young parents. Parents are the most important element in a child's development. My frustration is with a community that seems to repeat mistakes of the past. Why can't more creative methods for problem solving be found? I think Cleveland has superb assets. I live in the suburbs and enjoy coming into Cleveland for all the wonderful activities available. Thank you. Do the cafe again.
Tim, I travel a lot for my job and I see many new things going on around the different parts of this country. Construction in the Southern states is endless. Movement to the south is big for construction and for business. But I do see a down side to this. I think the South will soon become one large retirement area. The elderly will over populate the area and younger folks will want out. The Northern states and especially Ohio should market itself to business as a labor force to reckon with. The younger folks fleeing the south will move north for better jobs and living conditions. The problem I see in Ohio is the lack of money and interest coming from outside sources. There are trouble areas in the U.S., but the money going into areas outside of Ohio or even Cleveland amazes me. If you would look at the price of housing outside of Ohio you would find that prices have double in every area. In Cleveland they moved up very little if any. If you look at Columbus and how that area has grown with new construction and renovation to the area, it is astounding. Schools are a problem and throwing money at them won’t help. How many times do you hear about kids running wild in Public Square and fights breaking out. That alone kills downtown. Businesses won’t move here because of all the issues that they have to overcome. Look at how Wal-Mart was treated for moving downtown. Cleveland has too many politicians and not enough public servants. Cut the number of politicians in this city.
Cleveland has to become more contemporary. We have to move into the 21st century now. We have to look at business another way and be more inviting instead of fighting. We have to look overseas from an international perspective and convince business to move to Ohio. Forget the unions, they’re dinosaurs. We need police and fire units. We need public transportation that is inviting. We need streets and areas you can walk and be safe. We need a dome on the stadium. We need a convention center. We need our sports teams to start winning. We need to develop the lake front similar to Chicago’s lake front. This is all I can come up with in such short notice. I hope some of this makes sense. I will keep watching and hoping for better.
liked your program! A program created by Marsha Linehan I feel would be very helpfull in stopping the social behavior that is so prevalent in our society. The program would be an ideal learning tool in the high school grades. It"s called DBT dialectical behavior therapy. Uses 4 basic skills (Mindfullness) develops insight& awareness of one's own behavior.doing one thing in the moment. (Distress Tolerance) Accept& reduce stressfull events in your life. (Emotion Regulation) Identfy & regulate emotions. (Interpersonal Effectiveness) Effectively interacting with others. This could be the start of changes as the kids graduate.
My husband and I loved your new talk show. The format was different, casual yet a serious and issue-based conversation sitting around a table eating. The guests were known and unknown (to us) Clevelanders who are bright and interesting in their professional and personal lives who all spoke articulately and with passion. Congratulations!
Dear Tim- I watched the Cleveland Cafe tonight and thoughly enjoyed it. My husband and I were brought up in Cleveland I was raised in Lakewood, Bay Village and he was raised in Chardon. After we married we moved to North Olmsted.There were shirts out at the time we got married "The westside is the best side" I had to get him one. (That was over 26 years ago. We relocated to Chardon this last August having spent the last 21 years in South Bend,Indiana. I have always considered CLEVELAND HOME!!! I wish downtown was like it was when I was growing up with Halles, Higbees,May Company And Sterling Linders..Maybe that would bring people back downtown?? Listening to people speak about the schools here I am glad my children are grown. But they would have been in Catholic Schools regardless. Hope there is another Cleveland cafe..
I have to be honest, I say your commercial and thought good idea but it wont work. then forgot about it. Tonight after cleaning our small church and studying for my sermon. I was flipping channels to find some Olympic coverage and found these people for different lives and clutters. having a meal some wine and civil conversation. no one got hurt, no yelling, spiting or food fights. just good conversation about practical real life issues. I was captivated and so glued to the "boob tub" I forgot the Olympics and my sermon and watched in au. Great program, I'm not a Cleveland resident, living on the edge of you market in Augusta, Carroll county, Ohio. but I was very impressed they several people can clam talk on TV and communicate. this is what TV was made for, to bring us together not divide us. ingenious television.
Loved the show. Very timely commentaries. Could expand to a hr show. Loved the diversity of ages,social & econonomic backgrounds. Why not have a "youth" who attends Cleveland Public Schools sit in on a conversation and get their take on important issues confronting Cleveland.
I really enjoyed "Cleveland Cafe," and I wish you luck. I thought that the panelists' comments were insightful. I would like for you to continue in your efforts to identify the problems that Cleveland faces. More importantly I hope that you can come up with some workable solutions. Why not invite Peter B. Lewis to appear on your program?
The show was absolutely fantastic. Looking forward to future editions. The calm discussion was refreshing and a welcome addition to the sometimes jaded exchanges that take place on various shows. One hour would have even been better!
Please continue to push forward and bring this refreshing format and concept to Cleveland!
We watched " Cleveland Cafe" and thought it was an excellent first step to a much needed platform. Cleveland is the core of the region. We need to focus on both long and short term ideas to rebuild the foundation and correct the economy,create more job's, more hope, focus on early education', create regional support for solving northeast OHIO's economic and image problem's. Bringing people together from all walk's of life'all races,can do nothing but be constructive.
Wonderful program. How did Sam Fullwood and Ms MacDavid become so successful and insightful? Perhaps they could transport their recipe for learning and integrity to the many parents who are lacking. Crime and fear are the main reasons for a dying city. School used to be a safe, creative vista with no fear for one's safety. I feel sorry for the children who would love to learn in a safe environment.
I had an opportunity to watch the show on 2/18/06 , I thought it was fantastic. I hope the show has much success and can remain on the air . More people in Cleveland need to have an awareness of our "community issues". Public awareness and programs need to be inclusive of all socioeconomic levels. What about having parents or young children on the show that are from inner-city Cleveland? If we want to create programs that will work , we first need to identify the problems and work the solutions out step by step. How better to get that than from the individuals who are livng it ?
I have heard from so many people lately that they would like to contribute , but don't know where or how. I know so many that gave to Hurricane Katrina ( i.e. clothes, money , supplies, etc) but do not help out in their own communities or are not convinced their contributions will get into the right hands. I was an education major at BGSU 18 years ago and switched my major in the middle of my core requirements. I did this after mutliple student teaching experiences in the Toledo area. Even at that time , you could start to see the pendulum shift and the children challenged at much earlier ages. Education is as much a critical key to success for these kids -- as is having a loving set of parents. Do we need to have programs to support parenting skills?
I plan on continuing to watch the show , I hope you hear from enough people in Cleveland to keep it on the air .
Tim and Sam - the best of luck to you. Good , solid platform.
Enjoyed the show. I believe Sam questioned why native Clevelander's are the people who express the negative images of Cleveland. I was born and raised in Cleveland and my husband and I bought our first home in the city and started our family there. I think the Cleveland area has wonderful benefits for families and there is a lot to love about living here. But I also remember when it was a much better place to live, work and raise a family; when I could say I lived in the "Best Location In the Nation" and believed that. I'm still in love with the town but sad because so much has been lost and probably will never be regained. I just hope we can stop the bleeding and restore some of the damage that's been done.
Tim and Sam, I found your show interesting and provocative. I moved here seven years ago to teach in our Cleveland schools. I have lived on both sides of town and you were right on- concerning the division of the city. It is deeply divided by both race and socio economic conditions. With this said, I too see the more positive side of the city and it's people. We have a beautiful city with great facilities, entertainment, and cultural activities. By the way Tim you're right about the schools. Until we can get parental involvement and commitment, the situation will not improve. We must find a way to get parents to recognize the importance of education and instill this into our children.
I was interested to hear someone say something in the opening moments that I’ve said since coming here 28 years ago: It’s Cleveland’s natives who’re down on Cleveland. I arrived here from Boston with others from St. Louis, Dallas, Houston, and Atlanta to open a new division, and we all agreed it’s a city like many others . . . some assets, some problems, and many opportunities. Some have been developed, but not enough of the important ones.
It’s very simplistic to say Cleveland needs better schools as though no one’s thought of that before, or that it’s easy to fix that problem. The cause is much deeper than that.
You get what you demand, and you demand what has high value to you. Eastern suburbs have good schools because they’ll settle for nothing less. Cleveland doesn’t because the mentality is that school is where you spend time until you’re old enough to stop doing that. Education is not valued for its own sake.
The education must begin by convincing parents what an enormous difference education will make in their children’s lives so that they instill the same value in their children. This comes long before more money, newer buildings, and higher salaries, all of which is wasted on a system that’s not supported by its clientele.
You mentioned media involvement. How ‘bout regular public service messages (or sponsored by local banks or whoever stands to gain in the long term) aimed at parents that hammer at the importance of parental caring and involvement (in contrast to the third grade teacher who’d be pleased to see two parent show up), and highlighting achievements of systems (or more likely, individual schools) that have made great strides long before they got great financing. Surly those can be found in Harlem, Detroit, Chicago, and elsewhere.
State-of-the-art stadiums are neat (but not as neat as Fenway!) and the Rock Hall was a nice catch, demonstrating that you can get what you demand and you demand what’s of high value to you.
Until people rally around good schools with the same enthusiasm that brought stadiums and House of Blues and Hard Rock Cafe and sports contenders and all those fun things, it makes no sense to blithely recite the same glib stuff about better schools. It’s trite and it’s empty until people look in the mirror and hold themselves accountable for their part in the process.
I listened with great interest to "Cleveland Cafe" tonight. It was very good, thought-provoking, and well thought out. I hope it continues.
The comments about the state of education in Cleveland were most interesting to me. You see, I recently re-entered the teaching profession. I teach at an inter-city high school and the experience has been eye-opening, to say the least. My biggest surprise came when one of my colleagues was exressing her frustrations with a parent who would not sign any scolarship applications for her child. It seems that quite a few parents don't want their child to graduate and go to college because the child will then be smarter than the parent. I was stunned.
There are also problems with parent who view school with animosity and trepidation. They have had bad experiences when they went to school and they don't see any reason to think that a parent-teacher conference will be any different. The teachers frequently don't know how to listen and they don't use vocabulary that isn't jargon ridden and technical.
Maybe we need to get the parents involved in their children's schools early so they feel that they are accomplishing something. They need to see the need for their child's success in school. Maybe we should, also, train teachers and administrators to listen better and commicate with, and not talk at, parents.
We really enjoyed the show !My wife and I are life long reidents of Cleveland. My question is, of all the guests on the show,who was a resident of Cleveland?
Although I think this first show fell short of its concept (I'll explain), I hope there are more "Cleveland Cafes." I was born here, lived here until age 9 when my parents moved the family to Southern Calif. After 43 yrs in L.A. I moved back to this area last year. Interestingly, in Cleveland the talk is how to keep people from leaving. In L.A. it's how to keep the illegal immigrants out--or re the proplems with how to accommodate everyone!
Your show tonight started off by making a good point--that newcomers to Cleveland love the city while longtime residents seem to have given up. I think some of that comes from a need to "justify" our reasons for moving here, however I would have liked to hear more about other people's reasons for stayng or leaving. Despite the schools, poverty, crime, deteriorating neighborhoods and other serious issues, I suspect that a primary reason for disenchantment is the weather. Cleveland winters can really shut down your enthusiasm.
Unfortunately, I so not feel that the guests on this show come close to representing the population at-large. Dr. McDavid had some good comments, however she was poorly matched with Chef Rocco (blatant self-promotion) and the PR gal with the botox lips, who's apparently moving back to NY anyway. Both of you are in positions to meet the REAL people of Cleveland, thus I was surprised by those two choices. In regards to your concept of providing "a platform for opinions and voices not often heard on television," I was expecting more diversity, not a white collar business lunch.
I don't very often like local talk show's, but his one was great. It touched on some important issues and left room to discuss others in the future. For Cleveland to revive the success that it had in the frst half of the 1900's it has to solve the education and the social economic problems. A key componet to the success of this city and NEO, is regionalism. We can no longer afford to compete against each other for business. This area boasts a strong financial market and leads the world in the medical field. These are the assets that we need to capitalize on to revive this great city and NEO. We need to work as one to attract business back to NEO. Once we do that we will be able to solve our problems and we will revive the successes of the past. Remember when we called this the Best Location in the Nation, it is time to do that again. If we don't believe it, no one else will either. I hope you explore these topics in the future. Great Job.....
The reason your people couldn't understand Clevlanders attitude on the sorry condition of Cleveland is that none of them lived here in the pre bussing and pre NAFTA days.. Get rid of NAFTA and bussing for starters...return the schools to neighborhoods. return the jobs to America from NAFTA,CAFTA, WORLD TRADE and get out of the worthless U.N.
I thought today's show was excellent. The format was very good. Of course it wasn't long enough to fully explore the various questions raised, that would be a good addition, extra time. What are we talking about? Exactly what you just talked about. Me and a couple of buddies talk about "What does NE Ohio in general and Cleveland specifically need in order to thrive again." Unlike your co-producer, I do not think regionalism is the answer. However I do agree with focusing on the family structure and supporting things like that. But I am sure he would also throw more money at it. I did some research about the Cleveland Public School system. In their own words they said they were spending about $8000 per child on the children. I looked up the number of enrolled children and then their budget and did simple math. Do you realize the overhead of supporting each child is 100% ? Yes for each child enrolled they spend $16,000/child. And OH that doesn't include the $2 Billion that Barbara Byrd Bennett said was for Capital Improvements. Excuse me? THIS isn't enough? Lets take North Ridge Academy for instance (I think that's the name of it). Lets see, for $15,000 per student per year paid by parents they are virtually guaranteed that their kid will: 1) Go to college, any college, 2) have about a 25% chance of being accepted into an Ivy league school. So the difference isn't the money and I wouldn't pay a dime more if I lived in Cleveland. The Parents and community is where something is missing. There ARE teachers that aren't dedicated but I don't really believe it is 100% of them. So keep talking. Keep exploring. Getting people to LIVE in downtown is a stupid waste of money. That is not needed, how about creating an easy business climate. How about going to the State of Ohio and asking for a State Abatement for Cuyahoga county. There are other ways to attract business without giving away everything. And putting in Shopping Malls is not going to get people to spend their money. Getting high paying jobs and skills is where it is at. These people look at singleton solutions and not holistic, systemic solutions. Look at, I think it is, Oakland where systemically they cracked down on development so that all development has a common look and appeal, and how they are dealing with their problems systemically, not piecemeal "well that didn't work, what's next" as if a band-aid approach would work. Sorry to done on. I really liked your program. -T-
The show is a good idea. I'm not a native either being from upstate NY. Cleve needs to focus on its greatest strengths..Cleve Clinic and Univ Hosps. These are large, good citizens who can provide a cohesiveness to Cleve's identity crisis. I often think Cleve doesn't know what it wants to be when it grows up. Not all support sports or music or arts, but in one way or another all relate to medicine. Doesn't sound sexy, but NY's and others "Got Milk?" pulled an identity together that hasn't near the calling card of medicine. I would love to see the cultural feel of the east side of Cleveland root itself into the whole of Cleve. The beauty of medicine is that it has a branch in the arts and therefore can synthesize the other highly esteemed attributes such as the orchestra, museum of art, science. We really need to stop ignoring these gems and put them in the forefront where they can attract expansion for business. Doesn't everyone agree that medicine is the GM, FORD, and others of the future? I could go further but it doesn't take that much imagination. I hope.
Thanks for the show, I've never been inspired to write before..but I hope your efforts lead to change and not just another opportunity to recycle the past.
I think its about time a program is put on TV like this! It gives great exposure to what is "good" in Cleveland and inroduces the greater area (almost 4 million people) the chance to learn about are region. Discussing our woes in this manner allows viewers to hear different sides of issues - not just what is pounded on us by TV networks and the PD. It's about time we here some more positive besides the standard "Our sports are bad, or weather is bad, everyone moves away, etc etc" - Wake up Cleveland - its a beautiful morning out there!
I just wanted to say I love the show. Personally, I am a young professional who is worried about the future of Cleveland especially the economic side of the puzzle. One of my biggest complaints is we hear too much about the negative of Greater Cleveland but we never see programing dedicated to discussing how Cleveland can move beyond the industrial base to retain young people. I think you could use this format to discuss this topic or other economic and cultural issues.
hi love the show concept but i think you need to add another person... a working class, blue collar type person who could add another point of view. just my thoughts
iliked the show. hope the talk leads to some positive actions. safty in traveling about cleveland should be talked about. please keep the show going senior
I listened to your show with Dr. McDavid. First of all I was in awe as I listened to Tim White. Tim made a statement regarding a topic of childbearing. Tim stated that sterilization could be a possibilty instead of youth having children. I feel their is so many variables behind parenting. Meaning the one case that was discussed with woman with the disability and her child drowning. I felt a rush of contempt for that statement, I thought about who are the majority of women who's having children, African Americans. Who are the people living in poverty. I see Tim White is just that.
My wife and I watched "Cleveland Cafe" this Sunday morning and enjoyed it immensely. As an educator in a suburb of Cleveland, I feel that dialogue in the community is an important starting point in the need for change. As someone that grew up in surrounding Cleveland, I often have mixed emotions about the city that I love. My wife on the other hand is one of those "outsiders" that came into the community and has embraced all that Cleveland has to offer. I whole-heartedly agree that education is the foundation for a thriving community, and I love Tim's comments about the media's role in the community as a medium for positive interaction with the people in the community. I can't wait for the next "Cleveland Cafe"!
I watched Cleveland Cafe today and found myself 'talking' amongst everyone. I feel that you began to hit on several important issues.I am currently a teacher within the Cleveland Municipal School District, so obviously education is a personal issue for me. I have been teaching, in Cleveland, for 13 years. I have taught wonderful children and hope I have made a difference. The past 3 years have been very difficult and with the addition of 6,7,8th grades, it has just been a nightmare. In my 13 years, a mayor has yet to visit our school. Barbara Byrd Bennett did ONCE. I feel you can't help some of the problems if you don't experience first hand what is going on. During the cafe' conversations, I was especially happy to hear Tim White say that there needs to be responsibility associated with money that is given. At our school, students receive all supplies, they receive breakfast AND lunch, and they receive clothing...if needed. Unfortunately, there isn't always gratitude for those necessities..it's just expected. I think it would be interesting to have a round table of teachers from the suburbs, inner city, and out lying areas. I am sure that the concerns would be very different. Currently, almost 300 teachers will be leaving the district. Those experienced, dedicated teachers will be replaced with younger, unexperienced teachers. What is going to happen? Will these new teachers stay for 30 years? I doubt it. Thank you for providing the opportunity to express some thoughts.
My wife and I watched "Cleveland Cafe" this Sunday morning and enjoyed it immensely. As an educator in a suburb of Cleveland, I feel that dialogue in the community is an important starting point in the need for change. As someone that grew up in surrounding Cleveland, I often have mixed emotions about the city that I love. My wife on the other hand is one of those "outsiders" that came into the community and has embraced all that Cleveland has to offer. I whole-heartedly agree that education is the foundation for a thriving community, and I love Tim's comments about the media's role in the community as a medium for positive interaction with the people in the community. I can't wait for the next "Cleveland Cafe"!
I felt aweful hearing what Tim White had to say regarding sterilization for controlling childbearing. I believe there are so many variables in a person situation. Tim to me sounds like a conservative. So that thinking doesn't surprise. The race that lives in poverty are Blacks and the race that has more than single parent home are Blacks, so are you saying we should be sterile?
I have been a resident of the Cleveland Area for 65 years, with exception of 4 years in the Air Force. The problems are to many for Cleveland: Who is taking ownership of our schools? What percentage of parents actually own there homes (to pay taxes) vs. children going to school? You have to pay for what you get, life is not FREE.......How do you educate children in elementary school that having out of wedlock sex is not correct. Someone must step up and make unpopular decisions to make things happen. We need discipline in our homes, work and schools. But who is going to be the BAD person to tell anyone in this society that their behavior is going to change for the betterment of the community, long range.
Good morning, First time viewer that only saw the last ten minutes, but just like a book, "read the first chapter and the last and you pretty much have it!" and I loved and encourage the show! I get together with groups of people to discuss these issues once and a while and it is very stimulating! As has been said before,"Dont get angry, get involved!"
Three years ago I moved from the the "INNER RING" to CENTER STAGE" Downtown Cleveland to become more involved as a person, an artist and a REALTOR! I have totally enjoyed the move and ask you to involve those two fields of expertise in one of your future shows! I would be happy to participate to represent either or both of those arenas!
We need to "rewrite the recipe" to create a stronger society, a better Cleveland ,which will result in a stronger region and in turn or return to THE GREATEST PLACE TO LIVE!!
A recipe is made up of ingredients and processes, of which the old ones are not working well, because since the womens movement, society has gone in a different direction! That is just a point in time,NOT A SLAM ON WOMEN!
I would like to see parental involvement in the show, from families that are doing it the old fashioned way: ie,Mom and Dad under one roof of which one is a stay at home parent!The separated and divorced families, single Moms and Dads, and the blended families!
It's time to take a new direction with the old compass! The Government, the media and society have to be restirred in this recipe with the same basic ingredients!
Rear Sirs, I really enjoyed your show. Althought it only shimmed the surface. There are so many issue that effect us all that dialog like this can be an asset. I like to join in with some views that may be of interest.jrarfitness@hotmai.com
Good morning, First time viewer that only saw the last ten minutes, but just like a book, "read the first chapter and the last and you pretty much have it!" and I loved and encourage the show!
I get together with groups of people to discuss these issues once and a while and it is very stimulating! As has been said before, "Dont get angry, get involved!"
"Stop the finger pointing and start talking!"
Three years ago I moved from the the "INNER RING" to CENTER STAGE" Downtown Cleveland to become more involved as a person, an artist and a REALTOR! I have totally enjoyed the move and ask you to involve those two fields of expertise in one of your future shows! I would be happy to participate to represent either or both of those arenas!
In keeping with the menu/food motif......... cuz food brings people together!!
We need to "rewrite the recipe" to create a stronger society, a better Cleveland ,which will result in a stronger region and in turn or return to THE GREATEST PLACE TO LIVE!!
A recipe is made up of ingredients and processes, of which the old ones are not working well, because since the womens movement, society has gone in a different direction! That is just a point in time,NOT A SLAM ON WOMEN!
I would like to see parental involvement in the show, from families that are doing it the old fashioned way: ie,Mom and Dad under one roof of which one is a stay at home parent!The separated and divorced families, single Moms and Dads, and the blended families!
It's time to take a new direction with the old compass! The Government, the media and society have to be restirred in this recipe with the same basic ingredients.......people and ideas!
I mangaged to catch the last half hour of the show Sunday morning and thought the it can serve a great purpose to the city of Cleveland and its people. As an MBA student at Kent State University, we are actually examining several of the issues (and more) that were discussed in the show, mostly in an effort to come up with ideas to improve the city. For my business strategy course, each student is preparing an analysis of the issues most crucial to Cleveland, including poverty, education, housing, transportation, "brain drain", etc. Specifically in my case, I am interested in staying in the area if the right opportunities exist, but am afraid that better opportunities might exist in other cities (as Aaron- H.S. student mentioned). Overall I think the show was great and hope that it will continue to be aired (potentially with KSU students as panel members??)
The show is a step in the right direction. I think that you should include the views of those living inside of the city. Those that live with the problems of the city everyday. The crime, the failing school system the poverty.
Lets get their opinion on a solution. What they think would make a difference. Tackle the issues one at a time and ensite actionable next steps to fix the problems instead of idle talk in hopes that someone will step up and do something.
Public discourse on issues is a start but action is required to make change.
I really enjoyed Cleveland Cafe...in fact so much so, that I watched it on Saturday night, and then when I found it again on Sunday morning, watched it again to see if I had missed anything! The diners were well selected, and the format informal, interesting, and welcoming. I hope that there will be more shows like this...so needed for local TV and, certainly, Cleveland could use some good PR. I'd love to see some of the local business people, some of the young movers and shakers who are truly capable of turning this city and its attitude around...less of the politicos who can't seem to see past their own agendas to make this city proud again. Thank you...please repeat often...would love it weekly! Cathy Doyle
I thoroughly enjoyed Cleveland Cafe...in fact so much so, that I watched it on Saturday night,and when I found it on Sunday morning, I watched it again to see if I had missed anything! The diners were well selected; the format informal, interesting,and welcoming. This is a wonderful addition to local TV and could be a powerful thrust for change to the attitude of Clevelanders. I would like to see this on weekly, and would love to see local business people, and young movers and shakers who are capable of changing the mood of the city; very few politicians please who have their own agendas and are too short-sighted to see for forest for the trees. Please keep up this type of programming...keep this show, it was wonderful. Cathy Doyle
I really enjoyed the show. It was fresh and unrehearsed. I came in towards the middle, so I did not really connect with the people - as to who they were - only as the subtitles identifying them. Is the chef a former Hawken or Gilmour student? I noticed that he mentioned both of those schools.
Great conversation, good topics, this type of forum should have been done years ago. Hearing other people view points beside politicians give the unknown and the pepole that are not involed into politic a voice. Everyone have ideas and something to say to move Cleveland in the right direction. My name is Bruce Martin and I am a resident of East Cleveland.I would love to be invited to Cleveland Cafe and talk about our great city and other issues; espeacilly those pertaining to ex-felonies: how to keep them employed,using their experiences, help mentoring the youth and etc.. Thank you,
Great conversation, good topics, this type of forum should have been done years ago. Hearing other people view points beside politicians give the unknown and the pepole that are not involed into politic a voice. Everyone have ideas and something to say to move Cleveland in the right direction. My name is Bruce Martin and I am a resident of East Cleveland.I would love to be invited to Cleveland Cafe and talk about our great city and other issues; espeacilly those pertaining to ex-felonies: how to keep them employed,using their experiences, help mentoring the youth and etc.. Thank you,
Enjoyed the format of the show. May be interesting to invite individuals who have invested money in Cleveland and are now investing in other cities (i.e. Forest City, John Ferchill). What suggestions do they have for improvement and growth?
No parent should be afraid to come to a parent-teacher conference about their kid, no matter what. If nothing else, it shows the student that his parents really care about him. I was a teacher for 28 years in Ravenna, by the way. Now I am a tutor.
I thought this was an excellent program. I feel compelled to comment, however, on Tim White's remarks regarding the problem of inadequate parenting ("Should these people be having children?").
Of course, Tim, these people should not be having children. But they do and they did. Your comment is a perfect example of what is wrong with conservative thinking. Instead of trying to find solutions and deal with situations, your only offering to the table was a blanket condemnation of the offenders. No progress will ever be made if the leaders of this city and of this country can think of nothing better to do than wallow in their righteous indignation.
That said, I hope to see more editions of Cleveland Café.
I thought this was one of the best shows I have seen in a long time. The panel was diverse and expressed many great points of view. We need to look at the past to learn what put us in the position we are presently in. I believe that when mandated busing was put in place we started the downhill slide. I don't think that going back to segregated schools is the right thing to do, but certainly the concept of neighborhood schools is best for elementary schools. There are ways to have children learn about the diverse cultures that the City has. Many of us grew up in the period of time of the 1950's and 1960's where there were many immigrants here as a result of World War II and we got along. There can be multi-cultural events that bring the various groups together to learn from each other. We must remember that when busing was put in place, parents feared what there children would face and the long trips to and from school. Ignorance is worse that fact. The flight of those who had the ability to leave, left the City with those who could not leave and the least ability to cope with what was left. Our education system must be changed to recognize that not everyone is meant to go to college. There are many intelligent people who perform great services to our community without ever having gone to college. There are people who are intimidated by tests and who learn from visual and tactile methods. We had at one time schools like Max Hayes and Jane Adams that catered to those who wanted to do things other than theoretical physics or write the next great novel. The building construction trades are not getting the apprentices that are needed to replace the jouneymen that are retiring. This would be a great place for a co-op program in high schools to become involved. There could be magnet type schools for the academically talented to attend and receive accelerated coures that would lead to college. Remeber that the community college system was meant to allow people and open enrollment program for those who could not qualify for other colleges and universities. Who are the advocates for the students if it is not the parents and the school board. It seems that those who start out to help soon get wrapped up in their own importance and become more concerned about their own agenda. There many other surrounding communities that are facing the same issues and maybe it is time to create a regional authority to address some of the major issues, and if it works move on to more complex issues. It is time to look at what is best for the City and not just what is best for a particular ward. If we do not become a regional force that encompasses the police and fire departments, then it is likely that these service people will also leave the City as soon as they are allowed by statute. The City needs a strategic plan that is not influenced by the politicians in power. The plan must rise above politics and look into the future no matter who is in power. Although I live in a Cleveland suburb, I know that my life style and interests are inluenced by the City of Cleveland. I was born in Cleveland and when I graduated from college returned to Cleveland to work. Work eventually took me to other parts of the country, but when I retired we returned back to the place we loved. It takes people from remote cities who visit to remind us of the great City that we have.
My husband and I found the show enlightening.These are troubled times that we live in and there are so many problems that need to be addressed. It is good to see people coming together for answers rather than finger pointing. Perhaps the next round table could comment on the impact of state funds diminishing and federal mandates increasing. ie; education. Keep up the innovative work.
Nice job Tim and Sam. I enjoyed the show. You assembled a nice group for the first discussion. It is hard to disagree that education is a major need in the community, and that the media has tremendous power to effect the understanding of a story, or issue. Since you only have a half hour to work with I suggest that you two choose a main topic or several possible topics for discussion; the schools, city employees living in the city,regionalism, etc. You might want to consider inviting a "regular" guy or gal that grew up in the area to be on the panel. Rocco to some degree filled this spot, but he has become a celebrity through his hard work and generosity. If you need someone like that I may be available. Ned
I enjoyed your first airing of the Cleveland Cafe. New, refreshing, community input & thought provoking. It’s a winner!
I was born and raised in Cleveland, have lived in the South most of my adult life. Moved back to Cleveland in the past 5 years, I was sad to see the state of the City. I love this City, and wish to see it prosper once again.
In addition to the topic of Schools and what will make Cleveland a better place, I have a thought for an upcoming show.
It is my opinion in order to make this great city a better place to live and thrive we should focus to attract and increase visibility with new corporations for new employment opportunities. We have so much to offer with the Pro teams, to art, theater and so on.
No more out sourcing, by attracting new growth, providing other opportunities for companies to come and stay in Cleveland. Let’s clean those empty old buildings, make new commitments and bring out sourcing to Cleveland. We all would have a vested interest to see this city thrive once again.
The growth of Atlanta, Baltimore, Indianapolis, attracted new development, repaired and upgraded their down town and urban cities. We need to take ownership of this great City, and by discussing and brainstorming on your show might bring new ideas from your bright, creative listening audience.
I enjoyed your first airing of the Cleveland Cafe. New, refreshing, community input & thought provoking. It’s a winner!
I was born and raised in Cleveland, have lived in the South most of my adult life.I love this City, and wish to see it prosper once again.
In addition to the topic of Schools and what will make Cleveland a better place, I have a thought for an upcoming show.
It is my opinion in order to make this great city a better place to live and thrive we should focus to attract and increase visibility with new corporations for new employment opportunities. No more out sourcing, by attracting new growth, providing other opportunities for companies to come and stay in Cleveland. Let’s clean those empty old buildings, make new commitments and bring out sourcing to Cleveland. We all would have a vested interest to see this city thrive once again.
The growth of Atlanta, Baltimore, Indianapolis, attracted new development, repaired and upgraded their down town and urban cities. We need to take ownership of this great City, and by discussing and brainstorming on your show might bring new ideas from your bright, creative listening audience. Best of Luck!
I enjoyed your first airing of the Cleveland Cafe. New, refreshing, community input & thought provoking. It’s a winner!
I was born and raised in Cleveland, have lived in the South most of my adult life. I love this City, and wish to see it prosper once again.
In addition to the topic of Schools and what will make Cleveland a better place, I have a thought for an upcoming show.
It is my opinion in order to make this great city a better place to live and thrive we should focus to attract and increase visibility with new corporations for new employment opportunities. No more out sourcing, by attracting new growth, providing other opportunities for companies to come and stay in Cleveland. Let’s clean those empty old buildings, make new commitments and bring out sourcing to Cleveland. We all would have a vested interest to see this city thrive once again.
The growth of Atlanta, Baltimore, Indianapolis, attracted new development, repaired and upgraded their down town and urban cities. We need to take ownership of this great City, and by discussing and brainstorming on your show might bring new ideas from your bright, creative listening audience.
While I sat and watched about 1/2 the show last night I see there are alot of good people which can influence this town. Thing is when you consider from what Tim said that the media has a direct influence what we see, hear, and experience to some degree. Maybe a few independent people who are influencial. There are media types like Bob Golic and Howie Chizek (Http://www.wnir.com) who people hear daily, talk about local and national topics. Also there is the more influencial radio, print, and television. I hope to catch more of these programs, and see where it heads jimdakotart
Reminded me of the conversations I had at Akron U during some prep courses for teaching. But I see that little has changed.
The jazz music was a nice touch too.
You did a good job bringing everyone into the conversation.
The pediatrician brought up a good point but was careful not to push too far when she mentioned the schools. She said that others may not be able to adequately advance their cause because of social status or education. It does seem that some teachers are not sensitive or are too protective of their territory.
This might be a controversial topic to pursue in the future.
We'll keep an eye on the show for some more great conversations.
I can see that if you do take the show to the West Side it might bring some of the local residents into the mix.
I have to tell you. I was helping a friend work on a West Side house the last couple of days. Over by Ohio City. There are some great things happening over there.
This show is what we need to bring the real neighborhood issues to the table.
Looking for a restaurant? How about the little place on Bridge? Just down the street from the "market". Or maybe from the market itself.
What happened to asking for input from "Voucher" private schools that are an alternative to Cleveland Public School System? You should consider this alternative while discussions continue on fixing Cleveland Public School Education system in its present state?
One of the best discussions on Cleveland in a long time. Enjoy it!
The basic issues of Cleveland Schools is a lack of tax base, lack of parental involvement, lack of a dress code, lack of discipline with real consequences, lack of respect for people and authority.
Nice Show. It's great that you had a diverse group of individuals. I liked part of Tim's final question, "what are you going to do to help change Cleveland".
Great show! Interesting format.We need to get people in the city talking directly about the problems and opportunities that we all face. I am looking for future programs.
You need to have more advertising for future shows.
WHAT I ENJOYED MOST ABOUT THE SHOW: PEOPLE WITH DIFFERENT IDEAS AND OPINIONS HAVING A REAL DISCUSSION WITHOUT THE YELLING, SCREAMING AND NAMECALLING THAT USUALLY PREVAILS. RICK
I agree, solid concept and good discussion... Perhaps a discussion on how we can create jobs by implementing sustainability initiatives that can lend to the success of the region and in turn fix the schools and any number of other issues...
We need more of this. Especially engaging citizens on the condition of our Cleveland Schools. I would like to see an evening with some local community members and parents to talk more about how we can join forces and work with other Ohio communities to improve our high schools. Some of the comments made on Saturday illustrating how different our children and parents are today was well presented by the Doctor.
Once someone asked why don't parents take more interest in their children in high school? My immediate answer was, "no one asked?"
Your idea is simple, but effective. We do not like large town meetings where we get 3-5 minutes to voice our ideas, concerns, etc. We need small groups, where we can share our values and seek ways to solve school, community and regional problems.
Great show, great format, great diversity. Half hour format too short. Withstanding lackluster leadership from the outgoing administration, an ongoing east/west divide, and a poor school system, I believe several factors contribute to Cleveland's inability to shed the "mistake by the lake" moniker. Why is there a rock hall when inductions are maintained at the Waldorf-Astoria? Post Detroit, why is there a domeless stadium near one of the coldest, turbulent lakes in North America? Can't the "dawg pound" and comfort coincide?
Sadly, it seems the only thing Cleveland has gotten right recently is LeBron, and we're all worried that if history again proves correct, his days may be numbered.
TV3 should be applauded for placing a show in prime time about the real concerns of our society and city!
I own a two east side buisines and am a part time educator and would love to see more vocational training after high school. I gree with the owner of the resturant that hiring educated and carring people is crucial to the overall success of a buisiness.
I would like a longer format, I would like to hear moer from Angela, why was she in such a hury to only make Cleveland apart time destination?
I grew upa nd still live in Euclid and it bothers me to hear people critize the schools in my community, Our schools have more opportunity for its student than most I do work at. The teachears at all schools are commited but the parents and students must want to learn and take advantage of the opportunities in front of them
Tim and Sam...You guys are from the Washington area. You know that there are not so many local governments, school systems, fire departments and police departments in the Maryland area. Counties run the local government, not local chieftans with different agendas. For instance, Maryland has about 25 school systems and Ohio has over 680. Until these issues are looked at, regional issues will always be placed on the back burner. Think of all the money Ohio could save in administration costs if we simply went to a county run school system. When I bring this up for discussion, people think I'm from Mars instead of Maryland. ...By the way great show
I very much enjoyed the show. I thought it was fresh and interesting. I do agree with Tim regarding the media. If we spend more time focusing on the good, then maybe some good will come of it. So, yes, you should continue to have the Cleveland Cafe. And, you should feature different groups or people that have great ideas they have put into play, people that have great ideas they need to put into play and those that just have great ideas. Cleveland has so much to offerand we need to be reminded of that. Great job, Tim & Sam.
Great show! We hope there will be more Cleveland Cafes coming. The education of the Cleveland children is extremely important not only to the students but to the city. The high school student hit the nail on the head with his opinion on education and the City of Cleveland.
An extremely enjoyable show. I was very impressed with the participants and their thoughts and insight. Hope to see more of the show. Kudos to Tim and Sam for their relationsip and willingness to bring it to the public in this type of forum. You guys are on to something and I hope that you have the opportunity to continue.
I thought the show was excellent and there were a number of good comments. I too believe that education is one of the most important areas we should be spending more funds on and parents should be more involved.
The one area that all of you seemed to miss is that today, unlike when I went to school, in most cases both parents work. That makes for less to time to be able to attend parent teacher conferences. I believe parents today should make the time to attend these conferences.
I enjoyed the show very much. I saw the re-broadcast on Sunday morning. This is the kind of journalism this region needs. People need to realize what is bad for Cleveland is bad for the region. I think the media is partly to blaim. When most of what you hear on the economic news and read in the paper is negitive people believe the region is going down the tubes. We need more positive media coverage such as this show. We don't want ot become another Youngstown.
I felt the show was very well done and it is a necessary style of journalism. Please don't give up on this show. • Find an appropriate time slot • Advertise the show. • Get the general public's opinion on issues. • Get the business community involved; invite local business people to be guests on the show. • Invite local, state and federal government representatives to be guests. As far as topics for the show; • What needs to be done to attract businesses to the Cleveland area? o The area offers: Reasonably priced land. Great area museums. • How can pride be renewed in Cleveland? • What is good about Cleveland?
Thank you for the intelligent conversation on Cleveland Cafe. This has the makings of a very worthwhile and entertaining regular show. I hope that the concept will be further pursued. Mr. Tim White sets a tone of cordial, warm and intelligent discussion. Good luck.
I first want to congratulate Sam and Tim on a wonderful concept and hope you continue to air Cleveland Cafe. My wife and I happened upon your show and believe in what your trying to do for all Clevelanders. We are both born and raised in the Cleveland area and have 3 kids who have experienced our city through the museums, shops, music halls, theatres, parks... the list goes on. I am one of many Clevelanders who are very passionate about my city and want to make a difference. Schools, Business, Social, Arts, they are all important to Cleveland. I think you can make this show a great catalyst for change if you give each panelist a goal... after the talk, go out and do something. And please,please,please keep the politicians out of this forum... there are many great people out here you have yet to discover.
REFRESHING to see people acknowledging the issues before us in Cleveland. The issue most important is race relations.NO MATTER what anyone says. Notice how the teen brought it up first. It's in the schools b/ Cleveland kids aren't born that way, these parents are breeding ignorance. People that need the most help don't want help. How do we change that way of thinking? Im a white woman who wants to be looked at as open minded by blacks, latinos, etc. Forget about your color and start living & loving for each other and for the benefit of yourself and your children. Know any black person can do what a white person can and maybe better. My husband is a police officer, and wants people to know that not all police are racist and out to get you. He does his job to HELP not to be on a power trip. OPENING MINDS is what this show is doing, and please don't stop. People are so quick to judge and defend. Lets start listening, and start doing, and not complain. I love Channel 3 News and we know your a fair Station. Thanks
While watching the recent programme on "Cleveland Cafe, I could not get beyond how similar it was to any one of the discussions in the series "A Quiet Crisis" aired on PBS. Perhaps a show ought to put an end to the rehashing of what are clear problems and instead focus on putting people at your table with ideas and connecting them with capital to grow these ventures and keep them here in this splendid city of Cleveland.
I saw Cleveland Cafe this weekend, and liked it. I am an ex-Clevelander, now retired in Atlanta... a graduate of East Tech, who grew up in the Buckeye-Woodland area, obviously in a blue collar family. The question that intrigues me is the question that concerns everybody --- why are people so unenthusiastic about a city that obviously has so much to offer in terms of life style? I think it is economic. If more people grew up with good prospects for employment, saw lots of signs of success and prosperity around them, then they would more easily entertain the idea of staying in town. Atlanta is different. Young people here love the city, cannot imagine living anywhere else, and need no prompting to embrace the future here. That's because they feel hope. I like the show idea. In the future try other kinds of people. Go to some schools and find some parents who are active and successful, including working class and lower income people, and have them talk about THEIR Cleveland. Include more Rocco types, employers, who can say why they stay and what they need and whom they would employ. Cleveland Cafe is a good idea. I'm Ernie Holsendolph in Atlanta.
I think it's great! All the talk about Cleveland without the politics or media. Just real people talking about real issues. It really shows how Channel 3 isn't just another news station- but true Clevelanders who care. Good Work!
The most refreshing thing I've seen on Cleve television in years. Kudos to Tim and Sam. Thank God you didn't load it up with the usual socio/political faces. Keep it that way, down to earth, and you've got a real winner that might actually answer some area questions.
The format for this show is outstanding. Hopefully the locals will change and we'll get an overview of the city in general. Your cross section of guests was excellent, the young man Aaron being the most insightful I must say. The only way to truly reach Clevelanders is to talk up close and personal to the people of Cleveland. I felt comfortable that your show as speaking to both my neighbor in the City and my friend out in the suburbs. The focus shouldn't always be on the problems, highlight the positive aspects of the city. Good job, hope to see you again soon.
I truly enjoyed this program and the unique forum that can be enjoyed by all. I loved the fact that you were able to see how differently everyone sees the issues of our city and yet have a commonality. Fahrenheit is a wonderful restaurant. I'm excited to see where you will dine next. My only suggestion would be to make it a full hour program.
My wife and I watched the initial show last night and really enjoyed it. Profound topic, good range of people involved. I especially feel that we need a community involvement (public and private) to create an environment that will lead to successes for parents, and early successes for children. We cannot allow all entry level jobs to be outsourced.
Excellent show, the concept was quite revealing for the newcomer and the native to the city. Bring in more of the everyday stake holders within the community to the dinner table that were mentioned on the first show, eg. educators, laborers, hip-hop generation, mainstream americans, librarians etc. Keep the diversity as a key component for selecting the guest, everyone needs to see an example of themselves @ the table since the city is rich in culture!
Excellent show -- very impressed with the format, opinions. I was born, raised, educated and work in Cleveland but, no question, the city has changed, but I'm not sure all of the residents have. The more I travel, the more I like Cleveland but the City has to do a better job of salesmanship. Cleveland was a major "blue shirt" city -- manufacturing, auto, retaiiing. It was the largest clothing manufacturer outside of New York. Euclid Avenue was a major street. All that has changed. Today, the city is more into science, health care, research. Our economy has not kept pace with the rest of the country and our city leaders --business and political need to be more dynamic. Our educational system needs to vastly improve. At one time, the Cleveland School district and the suburban schools were the envy of the country. It also starts with parental concerns and involvement. I look forward to your next program. Donald Jaffe
Good show...please have more. The quests were very interesting, and the doctor's points were right on the mark. It was nice to have people discuss topics in a civilized manner without blame and finger pointing. Please, no alcohol when minors are included around the table
EXCELLENT! EXCELLENT! A great format (similar to "Dinner for Five" on IFC) that needs to continue. Here's my guest list for next time: Ted Ginn, Doug Trattner, Andrew May, MaryBeth Matthews (who writes a blog about teaching at Max Hayes and was featured in the PD), and Sue Dorfer (president, LGBT Center)
I thought the show was interesting. I'm in my mid 50's, but my 21 year old nephew also watched and commented on the views expressed. This type of show should continue- if not on the air, at least the Cafe could continue and the dialog could be posted or printed.
Really a terrific idea and show overall. Kudos to Tim, Sam, WKYC, et.al. There is such a dearth of this kind of direct, honest and thoughtful local programming being delivered here that I am almost reluctant to critique what you've done at all. Maybe just a couple of things. I don't know if you can find the extra advertiser(s), but the show could really use a full hour to give the participants each a little more meaningful air time and give the overarching conversation more cohesiveness. Very good choice in not having any politicians there in favor of the city's real "doers". I vote for keeping them out entirly for the run of the show. Good job as moderator Tim, but you should let the people finish their thoughts a little longer before jumping in with your comments. I think you should keep the wine flowing at a reasonable level because it makes for more candid discussion, but the moderator ought to stay perfectly sober. If you don't take a single suggestion, though, keep this going! It was great and I will continue to tune in regularly.
I thought the show was interesting and thought provoking. I like the idea of everyone sitting at a table in a relaxed mood. I like the diversity . I would like to see more time spent on some positive aspects of the ciyt and the school sytem. Specificaly, there are some youth who are doing very well in school but we don't get to hear about them enough. How about a panel of youth who are doing well, youth who are at risk and parents as well. How about doing a show on the importance of early care/education and have representatives form the county's Invest in Children, which focuses on child birth to 5?
One of the freshest shows I've seen in a long time. Interesting subject matter and a discussion rather than a shouting fest. Please air additional shows.
As the owner of clevelandcafe.com, I was curious when I saw the title Cleveland Cafe appear in the programming guide. I'm a big fan of Tim White, so I was pleasantly surprised when I watched the show and saw this format. I hope to see a variety of guests from different parts of town, and different backgrounds.
Very interesting concept in local programming. This ewas a very different approach to raise issues that affect Greater Clevelanders. This is a bold idea. Keep up the good work and fresh ideas.
1) I moved here in 1998, and can't say I'm as impressed with Cleveland as Tim White and Sam Fulwood seem to be as outsiders. If you aren't looking specifically for cultural attractions, there's not that much to do.
2) Regionalism won't work if it means any of the leaders of the City of Cleveland are involved in any regional leadership positions. Cleveland proper IS the problem, not the suburbs, and suburbanites are not going to turn over resources to the people who can't run Cleveland efficiently.
3) If you want a REAL discussion, don't have 1/3 of the panel be journalists. A journalism degree does not convey expert status on ANY subject. Sam and Tim threw way too many of their opinions into the conversation.
Great discourse. I flipped on the re-air Sunday and was entranced for the next 30 minutes - not sure that's ever happened with local programming. Fantastic beginning dialogue, hope that it continues and that this city embraces it/uses it to foster continuing 'real live' dialogues off-camera.
"Cleveland Cafe" is a welcomed addition to TV programming. I think the subject matter was relevant to every community, not just Cleveland. This gives an opportunity for everyday folks to add their ideas and opinions that wouldn't normally be heard, including high school students. Hopefully, people who are in positions to change things will listen to these ideas, and not be afraid to try and/or implement them. Keep politics out of it, there is no time for finger pointing. We have children & families falling through the cracks that need help now! Vocational education with work study programs has a definite place in any community. High school is a perfect place to take the time to "experiment" with what job they may want to do. It's hard to do after you're on your own and responsible for paying the bills, to change course and try to work while finding time & money for studies later on, especially if you have a family to take care of at the same time. College isn't an interest for everyone, but at least vocational training can give someone a starting place above minimum wage. I hope to see this show as a regular program, it has a lot of potential. I would really like it expanded to an hour to allow for more detailed discussion or multiple issues.
Finally a refreshing local show. Not the same political wind bags and talk show hosts you constantly see on TV and hear on radio. I like the format. I enjoyed the feel of confrontation based on each of the panels perceived mind set of the cleveland area. Would hope that all could move from the racial issue. Strongly agree that lack of parenting skills effect the positive influence on todays youth. We have grandparents raising grandchildren, while those same grandparents couldn't effectively raise their own children. Look forward to the next show. Life long resident of Northern Ohio.
I couldn't agree with Sam Fulwood more. There is no place in school for kids who are not going to college. I was a teacher in an Akron middle school when shop classes were dropped. Attendance and school spirit dropped at the same time. The Swiss school system has provisions for everyone to succeed according to their interests and abilities and it works very well. Perhaps we should do something similar. Great show. Keep up the good work.
As a graduate of the Cleveland Public Schools,CCC,CSU and former resident of the Lee-Harvard area, I was so pleased to watch the Cleveland Cafe. To know that there is a concern among the general public regarding the future of the Cleveland Schools and the City of Cleveland, is comforting to me. I am sadden to see that the city and school system I love, appear to have been left in the care of persons who could care less. I strongly believe that until the schools are managed by a "homegrown" ceo, someone who knows the neighborhoods and the problems that the children of cleveland encounter, there won't be any changes. The children and community must have better.
I really enjoyed the show. One thing I would love for you to focus on are things that the average person in Greater Cleveland can do to help make Cleveland better. I'd also love to hear about downtown development and progress on the schools. One thing I would love to see is an outreach to the alumni of our Cleveland schools. There are so many Greater Clevelanders who trace their roots back to Cleveland schools who are now successful and well-established members of our community. Maybe the support and active outreach to the alumni of the various schools would help them to improve. Maybe have open houses so alumni can see their former school and volunteer to help. It truly does take a village. Maybe one of your Cleveland Cafes can be in a renovated school. Good luck!
I don't understand why Tim defined the good people of Cleveland as being "god-fearing" among other things. What does one's views on god or religion have to do with being a good person?
As a young professional from the Greater Cleveland area, I am sometimes discouraged by the lack of other young professionals around here. There seem to be few young, intelligent people to befriend. That is extremely discouraging and makes myself, as well as some of my peers, feel a need to look beyond Cleveland for a more exciting personal life. Also more exciting job opportunities appear to exist much more in other locations.
I loved the show! I've been in Cleveland for 2 years and have observed a lot of the things you discussed. This is a great concept! Keep up the wonderful work you do!
My husband and I had just spent the day in Cleveland. We live in Cortland and enjoy a day in the area. It's a fun place to visit and through the years we have seen the area revitalized. It has changed in the 30 yrs. we have lived here. Thirty years ago on our first visit to Cleveland, I did not care if I ever returned as it was a dirty city and lake. I want the city to do well and I appreciated the round table discussion from people that I feel care and want to correct the problems. It's a great place to visit. Continue to promote Cleveland by emphasizing events that are happening on each newscast and also show clips of the history of Cleveland or great places to visit in the area. I hope to see more people in the community take part in the round table discussions and not politicians. I'm looking forward to the next one. You have much to be proud of!
I would have to agree with the blog by Jacqueline Knox Kelly. And a perfect example of those who profit by the good that Cleveland has to offer, but who runs and hides in the suburbs without being any help with solutions is the woman Angela Calman. While safely residing within the gated community in Bratenahl where she lived, she single -handedly destroyed a long standing and well functioning department at The Cleveland Clinic Foundation, formerly know as Media Services. Media services had served the Clinic well as far back as the days when film was used to record surgery. She basically destroyed that legacy, and the careers of most of the former members of the department, some who had been there for 28 years, providing loyal and caring service to the institution they loved, only to be leveraged out under pressure...losing their pension and more. Oh the stories that I could tell. The bottom line is, that she did not do this to serve the Clinic. She did this to pad her CV for HER career. Her continued B.S. evidenced by her participation in this show, proves to serve as an example of how its all about her. She is not even from the Cleveland Area!!! How dare she even express any sort of opinion about Cleveland as knowledgeable! She has no clue about the culture and caring that exists at the Cleveland Clinic, let alone the rest of the community! For the record, she is no longer at the Cleveland Clinic. The official line is that she "resigned". I am sure that she got more than she financially deserved, as part of an exit package. The rumor is that she was ousted, and I believe that is true. We are all still dying to know what the story is there. What's the story Dr. C? Cleveland would be a better place without the likes of people like her. Self serving individuals like her are a cancer upon our society. Wanna get sick? Do a google on her name..... yup...it's all about HER!
Several people at the Cleveland Clinic I spoke with all said they just about puked when they saw her on T.V. She made a lot of enemies there, and left a long trails of bodies and broken dreams.
Do us a favor Calman.... say goodbye to Cleveland!
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Sam Fulwood and I had a simple idea behind "Cleveland Cafe" ... to provide a platform for opinions and voices not often heard on television. If people find it interesting and worthwhile, we hope to produce more "CCs". Of course, the Cleveland Cafe is not just one place. We were lucky enough this first time out to shoot at Fahrenheit in Tremont; maybe next time it will be at a sports bar or a diner. We're already thinking about who might pull up a seat at the round table for the next Cleveland Cafe.
We truly welcome your comments -- and thanks for watching!
Tim White
Wow, this seems like a paid commercial for Ferenheit
Hey Tim...I think you may have had too much wine. Great idea fo a show, though. Good luck.
What a great show! Different, really different...no great "experts" just real people.
ENJOYED THE THOUGHTS AND FORMAT. PLEASE DO ANOTHER CLEVELAND CAFE, VERY REFRESHING.
I like the idea of this forum and the range of people you've asked to join the conversation in terms of ages and "professional expertise."
Perhaps next time, some more thought can be given to racial as well as socio-economic diversity, although of course, the individual quality of the people should be the most important.
I think both Sam Fulwood and Tim White were good at moderating and spurring conversation along and will look forward to future episodes.
Perhaps a panel made up solely of implants from somewhere else? Might be an deeper exploration of some of the points touched on on 2/18.
Thank you! I am new to Cleveland and I see the same things you were talking about. It was such a good show and concept that I missed Sportscenter.(haha) Please do this again. Topics good and relevant.
Just wanted to say I watched the show tonight, its a great concept. Cant wait to watch next week.
Laura Storey
Handy Firemen & Company
best local "news" show i can ever remember. do it about once a month. i'll host one in my bay village home (i cook good pasta dishes). the two women were incredibly insightful
Truly a great idea for cleveland! Hope to see more in the future.
BRAVO! I am so glad to see an intelligent talk show for Clevelanders. I loved the forum and the diverse group. I do wish, however, you would focus on one topic rather than skip about. I look forward to the next show.
Lori, Medina
It is good to have the round table format with the vast majority of the participants being from the suburbs, other cities and not attending Cleveland schools. I would like to see people from Cleveland, talking about how to improve Cleveland. We always forget about the poor and the gang member that feel slighted by the goals of Cleveland. There is a group who meet on Tues. at the Lonnie Burten Center that represent the real Cleveland. If you want to know what need to be done in Cleveland, come to a meeting. Mind you this is poor people, gang members and pertaining talking about what the city of Cleveland mean to them. Great show, but you need real people.
V.L. Finley
I enjoyed the show. I think there was a very important eliment that was 'almost' touched upon, but it seems like people are afraid to speak on VOCATIONAL education!! Rocco has the answer, and we must give our young people something within the area of education to strive for. If they have something like a trade or skill to work with after graduation, then I'm sure we would find more people staying in Cleveland and the outlining areas. This city is too big, and has too much to offer, to have to import people to build OUR city!! Train our kids to become electricians...plumbers...brick-masons...carpenters..chefs..hotel managers....and so on. After all there are many that don't want to spend four years in college, and have nothing to work with after completion of their course of study. There are some that are not college material, but have an ardent desire to have a money making skill/trade!!!
My wife and I are both teachers and really enjoyed the discussion on your 2-18-06 show. I particularily liked your last statement, Tim, and have believed this for quite some time. The positive presentation of our city should start with the media. Also, my wife suggested that it would have been nice to have an educator present at the dinner. Mabey next time. We look forward to the next show and hope that all of the wonderful points do not stop with conversation. These topics have value and results cannot be accomplished without action.
I'm flabbergasted! Something other than "reality" pulp on commercial TV. Well done first show. I don't think that Tim & Sam will have to dig for topics or guests; this area, State, Nation keep creating new problems every day.
Please don't cave in to "special interests" to keep discussions watered down.
Tim/Sam,
My wife and I really enjoyed this show! We both felt the format, and invited guests made for a great cross-section of our city.
Alothough we do not live in Cleveland proper, all of the surrounding communities in someway live and die with Cleveland.
We both think the show needs to be longer than 30 minutes. Both of you, and your guests obviously had more to say, and we would have liked to hear each have a chance to expand upon (or challange) the comments presented.
Second, I am extremely excited to see how diverse the panel was. From the News Anchor, to the Columnist, all the way to a High Schooler. Wonderful program, wonderful format!
We hope this show continues.
I don"t live in cleveland but i enjoyed your very imformative show. I think it is a good format for the people of cleveland to get together and start working towards making the hole city better.
i think this show has potential to be provocative, but there is a chance it will fall to the "closeminded cleveland elite" that runs this city. i see this show being more like a forum for commentary rather than a tool for change simply because the elite forces of this city wants to maintain status quo.
i will try to support the show, but cleveland is doomed to be a second-tier city, mainly because of the lack of jobs and the poor education of its citizens.
I watched your show, and could not belive my eye's. You raise your wine glass'es in the presents of a high schooler. Now you know what is wrong with Cleveland and your rotten show. What were you thinking??????
I enjoyed the show very much. I don't usually watch local talk shows. I liked the mix of people very much. I think you should have people from the "trenches" next time....a very experienced social worker from one of the neighorhood centers, a nurse from one of the neighborhood medical clinics, an artist who works in the schools with kids, a coach for midnight basketball. These people can share SUCCESS stories and the SPIRIT of the people. Also....
Tim was RIGHT ON when he implied that the media so often emphasizes the negative and not the positive in our community. So many of us in the Cleveland community know we are living an "inferiority complex" and it is programs like yours that will give our community the Attaboys and Attagirls it needs to believe in itself again. Without a boost of confidence and demonstrating through the power of the media the wonderful assets and blessings of our community, the struggle to make a Cleveland the BEST location in the nation will certainly continue to be very difficult.
Thank you for this new show, an opportunity showcase the best of who we are and what we dream our community to become!
(If you want some specific people that I have in mind suggested, please send me an email and I will give you names and numbers of the people I call "heroes" of our community.)
Debra Wiener
debrawiener@sbcglobal.net
I just happened to catch Cleveland Cafe tonight. I really enjoyed the discussions because I am a Cleveland middle school teacher who deals with students who are not prepared for school or life for that matter. Many of my students see their lives going nowhere except either to the streets or the cemetary. I do however have a few who want out of the projects and the ghetto and want to be what society considers "normal" and productive citizens. Please continue these wonderful discussions and hopefully people will be moved to act and get this city on the right track instead of sitting around complaining about it.
I enjoyed the discussion. I hope you will continue the show.
Great Show and very refreshing to hear comments regarding Cleveland and people looking for success rather than passing blame.
An elegant, classy, time-tested, and enticing venue for CC may be at La Fiesta in Richmond Heights. Tony Valle, the owner, would make an excellent guest as well as her son Jim, who tends the bar there. Jimmy often moderates great conversation between typically unmet A-type personalities. Great first show, CC! Future guest ideas: a director from Tri-C's Corporate College; Michael De Aloia, Cleveland's "tech czar"; Rep. Kucinich, or Rep. Tubbs-Jones; the editor of Blue-Eyez Talent Magazine, and a CEO from one of any Cleveland-based startups (look for Plumb Technologies, Inc., wink-wink!)
I'm sitting here watching your program. I turned it on because you were talking about Cleveland. One by one, most of you went round the table with these wonderful solutions for Cleveland, admitting you want to be in Cleveland, you live in the suburbs, and you think about Cleveland as some regional project. I heard only one member of your group admit to being a Clevelander and he went to Mentor schools. I'm not putting down your insights or your lack of a direct, living here connection to Cleveland, you have sincere motivation, a depth of understanding and some great solutions. But if you are really going to resolve the issues of this city, you need to understand the people of this city. Why have we left the city generation after generation? Why do the folks on the east side not visit the west side or vice versa? It is not enough to simply note or bemoan the phenomena. You want to really change Cleveland, move back into her heart, be quiet for a while and listen to what your neighbors are really saying. Try real hard to learn and not to teach. You'll be surprised at what you can accomplish. Do you want a better Cleveland. It's like making a pot of coffee. One measure for each cup, and one extra for the pot.
What a bad idea for a first show. A panel of motly White affluent suburbanites talking about what is wrong with the city of Cleveland. What's wrong with this show is that these people don't really know anything about cleveland. Has the teenager on the panel ever spent time in a Cleveland neighborhood? Has he ever been inside a city school or talked to a Cleveland teenager? If the panelist cared about the city, they would be living here.
What's wrong with Cleveland is people like your panel who benefit from all the good the city has to offer , but run to the suburbs to hide from the city's problems. What's wrong with Cleveland schools is their children are not in them. When will we learn that we can not take the best and brightest out of the city and school system and expect the least of us to success. I am sick of Cleveland's problems being defined by people who choose not to be part of the soulution.
Great show! Please keep it up. We want more shows like this.
Perhaps eventually you can go to an hour show for longer discussions and more detail on the topics, and maybe include a few more guests.
Your discussions can only bring about good for everyone.
John & Diane McNutt
I just finished watching this new program and really enjoyed it. The informal format is good and the comments and ideas of the diverse guests were excellent. One thought (I think Tim White put this forth) I found particularly interesting was about how local news programs present a dramatic perception of Cleveland. Rarely do I watch local news because the stories presented are negative and depressing. In fact, wkyc news this evening lead with two violent stories so I turned off the program. Did nothing positive happen in Cleveland today? What not lead with that? Anyhow, back to the point. I believe the local news programs could do much to improve Cleveland's image to it's residents and Cleveland Cafe is a very good start! Let's hope this attitude spreads to other stations and, indeed, to your own news programming.
Tim and Sam...
Great concept and was very inspired by your first show. Truly believe that there are more issues out there to keep your cafe going. Consider talking about how city/county and other prominent officials corrupt this county we live in. A friend of mine attempted to correct problems in the county government. He is known as the Cuyahoga County Whistle Blower that went against the corrupt politician that serves as our Auditor. Because of his concerns of illegalities he was fired and a year later he is still fighting them even though the drinkers on county time have there jobs back. ( MONEY TALKS) Let's get this out in the open with this show. It is an excellent neutral forum. Contact the whistleblower @ www.whistleblowernet.com. Sam will probably be held back by his management team due to the fact that the PD recieved a nice tax credit by the auditor. But if you are true to this show we will see.
I was exceedingly impressed by the format, content and collegiality of the first show. I can't add much, except to say schools, schools, schools. I live in Geauga County, which I suppose makes me an outsider. But I have practiced law in Cleveland for 25 years. Our son attends Benedictine. I have been immersed (and paid a lot of taxes) in Clevleand for a long time. Keep the dialogue going. I believe yuor show will do good and produce results. Congratulations to Sam, Tim, Dr. Lolita, Angela, Aaron and Rocco. Well done.
We thouroughly enjoyed the show and wish you would have a one hour version. I think it was most informative and would have more value if better advertised and at the same time each week. We have long needed a show of this quality and mix of people.
Nina & Earl Dailey
South Euclid, OH
This is the most intellegent
locally produced show (not on PBS)
Cleveland has seen in years. We
liked the mix of diners and
appreciated the lack of local politicians spouting usual laments.
We found ourselves discussing your issues right along and regretting not being able to interject. We also found the time up without once reaching to the remote to surf. It could go an hour with no problem. Real discourse of issues without a political spin is way overdue. Good Work.
Tim,
Congratulations on a great concept. It is good to see a media outlet like wkyc tackling real issues that are meaningful for the greater cleveland area. You and your guests were honest and spoke their minds and I appreciate the candor. This show is a great opportunity for people to express and explore the thoughts and opinions of other Cleveland residents.
I would encourage you in future shows to carefully examine a specific problem in each show in depth and really work through those issues. Best of luck and keep up the good work.
Rob Henwood, Medina
I was exceedingly impressed by the first show and by Tim, Sam, Dr. Lolita, Angela, Aaron and Rocco. Great format. I don't have a lot to add, except schools, schools, schools. I have practiced law in Cleveland and this area for 25 years. I live in geauga County, but I hope that doesn't disqualify me from sounding off. I have been immersed in Cleveland for a long time. Our son attends Benedictine. We're here for the long haul.
Keep up the good dialogue. Best wishes for the future.
Regards,
Joe Pappalardo
I am a 72 year old woman who lived in and around Cleveland all my life and loved the show tonight. I have always felt such pride in the Ceveland Orchestra and other cultural aspects of Cleveland. Studied at the Cleveland Institute of Music. The different thoughts brought forth by different age groups were so interesting. I hope this show will continue to become aired!
I caught your show tonight and really enjoyed it. I think I enjoyed it so much because I am a Cleveland middle school teacher who deals with students who are not always school ready. Many of them see no way out except the streets or the cemetary. There are some who try very hard to get out of the projects and be what society considers "normal" productive citizens. I hope this show will get people to start helping make changes instead of just complaining.
I caught only the last 15 minutes...but what a creative, innovative show!
I must praise the young high school gentleman for his forthright ideas and not being intimidated by the adults.
The single most important issue for Cleveland is quality education of the children. It is outrageous that we waste so much time, energy and most of all money on professional sports teams while the real future of our city goes wanting.
I wish that at some future airing of this show...and I certainly hope you will set this in motion...that Father Welsh previously President of St. Ignatius High School would be asked to join the round table. He is brilliant, articulate and has some tremendous insights about our youth.
Thank you for making this forum available!
THANK YOU ,WKYC ,FOR OFFERING YOUR NORTHERN OHIO VIEWERS THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIT IN WITH THE "CLEVELAND CAFE" PANEL. I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR NEXT MEETING...JACK
WOW Great Show About time something is done to bring the city together. Hope you can keep it going.
WOW WOW WOW
GREAT
TOM
I poked my head in to hear what you all had to say ... I found myself wanting to join in your conversations! I like the idea of bringing in regular folks to discuss our local issues. Sam brought up a good future topic ~ regionalism. Good job ... I'll keep watching!
Great Show!!! As everyone stated in their last 30 seconds, education is the key. I think Rocco Whalen (sp) is right on with his "gesture" of contributing a portion of his income to help fund books, supplies, etc. As a business owner (from Westlake), I would be very interested in contributing as well. I truly believe that we are not alone in our feelings. But being from the "right", I believe that there should be conditions. If I had thirty seconds... Develop a donation fund to help educate those that are less fortunate. Anyone that is on government assistance with children should be made to take "classes" for career training. This could be funded by the "public fund" Rocco mentioned.
Greg Stallings
The Stallings Group, Inc.
I caught the show for the first time today and I love it! It is very refreshing to see Clevelanders
discussing the pros and cons of the city in the city. I am a native Clevelander who has lived outside of the city for 7 years and I'm back to stay! Please continue to have young people on the show as you will find they can be very insightful.
My daughters and I truly enjoyed the program for a Saturday evening.I would like to see the successful African American high schoolers, especially the males, that you do not see/read about in the media on the show.
Keep up the good work.....
Sincerely.
Alice Andrews-Okon
what a great idea! i hope many clevelanders and suburbanites watch...and then begin to examine and EXPRESS their own ideas and opinions. I think the show will get people talking and motivated. Right now I feel like alot of us are just so down about the city and the school system that we are all in a holding pattern. Thanks for getting us to LOOK again.
what a great idea! i hope many clevelanders and suburbanites watch...and then begin to examine and EXPRESS their own ideas and opinions. I think the show will get people talking and motivated. Right now I feel like alot of us are just so down about the city and the school system that we are all in a holding pattern. Thanks for getting us to LOOK again.
My husband and I moved to the Cleveland area about two years ago. We moved from another area, Birmingham, Al, which suffers from chronic low self-esteem.
We have found Cleveland to be a wonderful place to live and raise our family. We take advantage of the MetroParks, the CVSR, the museums, and the zoo. Cleveland has so much to offer that I find myself discouraged by the number of Cleveanders who put down the area.
We did decide to move to the suburbs because education is important to us. Before moving to Cleveland, I worked in schools that served poor and upper middle class neighborhoods. The contrast between the two is night and day. Unfortuanately, in the schools that served poorer neighborhoods, children who were at grade level did not get much attention, because the teachers were too busy provding remedial instruction to the rest of the class.
I would like to know what can we do to help Cleveland and the Cleveland Schools as people who live in the suburbs. We know that for the area to thrive, the city needs to.
I would also like to hear from some college students (Case, CSU, etc.) about what attracted them to Cleveland and about what can the area do to keep them here.
Awesome!!!! The time slot isn't very good. I just happen to leave the T.V. on and sit down to grab a bite myself. The subject matter about children and young parents is something we need to address (yesterday). I really like what Tim said about the media I hate watching the news and hearing about all the muders etc lets put on some more positive things.
Who is Angela Calman, what business does she own and why is she leaving Cleveland? She made it sound like there is no real opportunity here and it seemed she had a sense of urgency in leaving Cleveland. She may not have been the best guess on a show that was talking about what's right with Cleveland. The show starated out saying more people within the city need to recognize all the great things Greater Cleveland has to offer to both its residents and visitors as well, but ended up pointing fingers.
AS far as education is concerned, primary education begins at home. The parent(s) are supposed to teach the children right from wrong and read books to them when the little - that just doesn't happen in MOST households any longer. My wife is the secretary for our local school and she often comes home with stories about the parents. They refuse to admit their child could have acted badly in school or that he/she is a poor student and will goes as far as to threaten the teachers if the teacher fails their child. And today, a teacher cannot "flunk" a student, that is, hold them back a grade, if the parent doesn't agree to it. The major problem today is that the parent(s), young or old, refuse to take ANY responsibility for the education of their children. The big question is how do you get parents who don't care about the education of their children to do a 180 and get involved.
My husband and I just happened upon the show this evening (February 18, 2006), and we were impressed and intrigued by what we saw. We found ourselves roped in by the conversation and were disappointed when the show ended after 30 minutes. In fact, "Cleveland Cafe" stimulated a discussion of our own as to why we live in Cleveland and what we can do about the state of the city's public schools.
How does one become a participant?
Keep up the good work!
Paul and Meghan Breitzmann
Shaker Heights
I watched for the first time on February 17. I`d just like to say that I thought the show was fascinating! Tim White and Sam Fulwood have a terrific idea. One thing regarding the Cleveland Public Schools that I did not hear discussed. I understand that most of the Vocational Training programs in the schools have been discontinued. I would suggest why not revive these? We have to realize that not all kids are college material and some are simply not interested in college. But training at school in a vocation such as welding or carpentry, sheet metal, etc. could teach them a trade and they could make good money (I understand welders do very well!). They could then support a family and have a good future. John in Shaker Heights
I liked the show alot. I am an educator in a very diverse suburb. I experience much of the same with parenting issues or better said, parents who were never shown or taught how to properly parent. To help make the schools better we need to get to the parenting aspects. If the parents are invested in their kids, then they will invest in the schools.
Wow!!! How are you supposed to get a good education when you are scared to go to school? Whether it is someone making fun of you for the clothes you wear or the spoiled girl kicking you because you are walking in front of her to get off the school bus...I don't feel education is the place to start...I feel the place to start is in the home...we need to get back to the values of life...the parents need to take back control...RIGHT NOW THE KIDS HAVE THE CONTROL...where and when did the parents loose control? Our neighbors children are out of control...I sit back and watch the children of today's society verbally push their parents until the parents have finally given up...then what...our society is being ran by a bunch of punks...where are the pleases and thank you's? where are the children holding the doors for old ladies? We need to hold our children accountable for their actions and we need to get back to the way things used to be...once we as parents have gained the control back behind our 4 walls at home we then can educate our children in a school system...then the teachers don't have to be afraid...where students can go and learn and not have to worry about being made fun of...where there isn't so much competition on the kind of car you drive or the clothes you wear or the neigborhood you live in...then learning becomes fun and your child will want to be there. I live in a middle class neighboorhood in Medina County...neither my husband or myself have our college degrees but my husband is working on his (hats off to him)...we are teaching our children to focus on treating others like you want to be treated...we are teaching them to respect themselves...we are teaching them the morals that we were brought up with...My children earn an allowance and then they are allowed to make choices what to spend their money on...sometimes it is spent on wants...sometimes it is spent on needs...we choose what T.V. shows they watch...we choose what music they listen to...there is so much negative in the media and the choices of music is horrible...I am also not against having campaigns regarding abstenance. I feel we are already in a tail spin of children having children...these are the same people who have come from bad home lives and they are breeding without education to correct their situation...it is okay to educate them...help them correct their situation...give people jobs...sometimes people have down falls and don't know where to start to get out...Let's help people stay in Cleveland by starting the process in our homes then schools and so on.
Thanks for listening.
Thank you, WKYC, for this enlightening idea. It was a pleasure to watch this stimulating program.
The conversation was courteous, intelligent, and thoughtful. Each of the participants represented their interests with a refreshing deference to differing opinions.
Tim's comments regarding the media were particularly poignant. I rarely watch television, and read the Plain Dealer only occasionally. I agree with the perception that we are perpetually bombarded with negative images and information. While I do not advocate blind allegience to whomever sits as head of this city, there has to be a voice to trumpet all the great things this town has to offer.
The discussion of problems is certainly welcome - - particularly in this warm, friendly manner - - but could we see a discussion of the great things happening today that are helping to solve the problems? there are programs that are in place or in the works that give us some sense of moving toward a greater future for this wonderful home. Let's hear about them. There are people who are working to make this an even more beautiful place. Let's hear from them, too.
Clevelanders are just waiting for something to celebrate. It's not a world series, or a super bowl, or an NBA championship that matters, thought it would help, but the willingness to believe that we live in the best location in the nation.
Thanks again for an oasis of calm, thoughtful discussion in a town known more for its heated discussions.
Enjoyed your round table discussion. My concerns are with early childhood education and parenting support for young parents. Parents are the most important element in a child's development.
My frustration is with a community that seems to repeat mistakes of the past. Why can't more creative methods for problem solving be found?
I think Cleveland has superb assets. I live in the suburbs and enjoy coming into Cleveland for all the wonderful activities available. Thank you. Do the cafe again.
Tim, I travel a lot for my job and I see many new things going on around the different parts of this country. Construction in the Southern states is endless. Movement to the south is big for construction and for business. But I do see a down side to this. I think the South will soon become one large retirement area. The elderly will over populate the area and younger folks will want out. The Northern states and especially Ohio should market itself to business as a labor force to reckon with. The younger folks fleeing the south will move north for better jobs and living conditions. The problem I see in Ohio is the lack of money and interest coming from outside sources. There are trouble areas in the U.S., but the money going into areas outside of Ohio or even Cleveland amazes me. If you would look at the price of housing outside of Ohio you would find that prices have double in every area. In Cleveland they moved up very little if any. If you look at Columbus and how that area has grown with new construction and renovation to the area, it is astounding. Schools are a problem and throwing money at them won’t help. How many times do you hear about kids running wild in Public Square and fights breaking out. That alone kills downtown. Businesses won’t move here because of all the issues that they have to overcome. Look at how Wal-Mart was treated for moving downtown. Cleveland has too many politicians and not enough public servants. Cut the number of politicians in this city.
Cleveland has to become more contemporary. We have to move into the 21st century now. We have to look at business another way and be more inviting instead of fighting. We have to look overseas from an international perspective and convince business to move to Ohio. Forget the unions, they’re dinosaurs. We need police and fire units. We need public transportation that is inviting. We need streets and areas you can walk and be safe. We need a dome on the stadium. We need a convention center. We need our sports teams to start winning. We need to develop the lake front similar to Chicago’s lake front. This is all I can come up with in such short notice. I hope some of this makes sense. I will keep watching and hoping for better.
liked your program! A program created by Marsha Linehan I feel would be very helpfull in stopping the social behavior that is so prevalent in our society. The program would be an ideal learning tool in the high school grades. It"s called DBT dialectical behavior therapy. Uses 4 basic skills (Mindfullness) develops insight& awareness of one's own behavior.doing one thing in the moment. (Distress Tolerance) Accept& reduce stressfull events in your life. (Emotion Regulation) Identfy & regulate emotions. (Interpersonal Effectiveness) Effectively interacting with others. This could be the start of changes as the kids graduate.
My husband and I loved your new talk show. The format was different, casual yet a serious and issue-based conversation sitting around a table eating. The guests were known and unknown (to us) Clevelanders who are bright and interesting in their professional and personal lives who all spoke articulately and with passion. Congratulations!
Dear Tim- I watched the Cleveland Cafe tonight and thoughly enjoyed it. My husband and I were brought up in Cleveland I was raised in Lakewood, Bay Village and he was raised in Chardon. After we married we moved to North Olmsted.There were shirts out at the time we got married "The westside is the best side" I had to get him one. (That was over 26 years ago. We relocated to Chardon this last August having spent the last 21 years in South Bend,Indiana. I have always considered CLEVELAND HOME!!! I wish downtown was like it was when I was growing up with Halles, Higbees,May Company And Sterling Linders..Maybe that would bring people back downtown??
Listening to people speak about the schools here I am glad my children are grown. But they would have been in Catholic Schools regardless. Hope there is another Cleveland cafe..
I have to be honest, I say your commercial and thought good idea but it wont work. then
forgot about it.
Tonight after cleaning our small church and studying for my sermon. I was flipping
channels to find some Olympic coverage and found these people for different lives and
clutters. having a meal some wine and civil conversation. no one got hurt, no yelling,
spiting or food fights. just good conversation about practical real life issues. I was
captivated and so glued to the "boob tub" I forgot the Olympics and my sermon and
watched in au.
Great program, I'm not a Cleveland resident, living on the edge of you market in Augusta,
Carroll county, Ohio. but I was very impressed they several people can clam talk on TV
and communicate. this is what TV was made for, to bring us together not divide us.
ingenious television.
Michael Bullock, Pastor
Sion Victory Church
Loved the show. Very timely commentaries. Could expand to a hr show. Loved the diversity of ages,social & econonomic backgrounds. Why not have a "youth" who attends Cleveland Public Schools sit in on a conversation and get their take on important issues confronting Cleveland.
I really enjoyed "Cleveland Cafe," and I wish you luck. I thought that the panelists' comments were insightful. I would like for you to continue in your efforts to identify the problems that Cleveland faces. More importantly I hope that you can come up with some workable solutions. Why not invite Peter B. Lewis to appear on your program?
The show was absolutely fantastic. Looking forward to future editions. The calm discussion was refreshing and a welcome addition to the sometimes jaded exchanges that take place on various shows. One hour would have even been better!
Please continue to push forward and bring this refreshing format and concept to Cleveland!
We watched " Cleveland Cafe" and thought it was an excellent first step to a much needed platform. Cleveland is the core of the region. We need to focus on both long and short term ideas to rebuild the foundation and correct the economy,create more job's, more hope, focus on early education', create regional support for solving northeast OHIO's economic and image problem's.
Bringing people together from all walk's of life'all races,can do nothing but be constructive.
Wonderful program. How did Sam
Fullwood and Ms MacDavid become
so successful and insightful?
Perhaps they could transport their
recipe for learning and integrity
to the many parents who are
lacking. Crime and fear are the
main reasons for a dying city.
School used to be a safe, creative
vista with no fear for one's safety. I feel sorry for the
children who would love to learn
in a safe environment.
I had an opportunity to watch the show on 2/18/06 , I thought it was fantastic. I hope the show has much success and can remain on the air . More people in Cleveland need to have an awareness of our "community issues". Public awareness and programs need to be inclusive of all socioeconomic levels. What about having parents or young children on the show that are from inner-city Cleveland? If we want to create programs that will work , we first need to identify the problems and work the solutions out step by step. How better to get that than from the individuals who are livng it ?
I have heard from so many people lately that they would like to contribute , but don't know where or how. I know so many that gave to Hurricane Katrina ( i.e. clothes, money , supplies, etc) but do not help out in their own communities or are not convinced their contributions will get into the right hands.
I was an education major at BGSU 18 years ago and switched my major in the middle of my core requirements. I did this after mutliple student teaching experiences in the Toledo area. Even at that time , you could start to see the pendulum shift and the children challenged at much earlier ages. Education is as much a critical key to success for these kids -- as is having a loving set of parents. Do we need to have programs to support parenting skills?
I plan on continuing to watch the show , I hope you hear from enough people in Cleveland to keep it on the air .
Tim and Sam - the best of luck to you. Good , solid platform.
Sincerely,
Robyn
Enjoyed the show. I believe Sam questioned why native Clevelander's are the people who express the negative images of Cleveland. I was born and raised in Cleveland and my husband and I bought our first home in the city and started our family there. I think the Cleveland area has wonderful benefits for families and there is a lot to love about living here. But I also remember when it was a much better place to live, work and raise a family; when I could say I lived in the "Best Location In the Nation" and believed that. I'm still in love with the town but sad because so much has been lost and probably will never be regained. I just hope we can stop the bleeding and restore some of the damage that's been done.
Tim and Sam, I found your show interesting and provocative. I moved here seven years ago to teach in our Cleveland schools. I have lived on both sides of town and you were right on- concerning the division of the city. It is deeply divided by both race and socio economic conditions. With this said, I too see the more positive side of the city and it's people. We have a beautiful city with great facilities, entertainment, and cultural activities. By the way Tim you're right about the schools. Until we can get parental involvement and commitment, the situation will not improve. We must find a way to get parents to recognize the importance of education and instill this into our children.
Thanks
I was interested to hear someone say something in the opening moments that I’ve said since coming here 28 years ago: It’s Cleveland’s natives who’re down on Cleveland. I arrived here from Boston with others from St. Louis, Dallas, Houston, and Atlanta to open a new division, and we all agreed it’s a city like many others . . . some assets, some problems, and many opportunities. Some have been developed, but not enough of the important ones.
It’s very simplistic to say Cleveland needs better schools as though no one’s thought of that before, or that it’s easy to fix that problem. The cause is much deeper than that.
You get what you demand, and you demand what has high value to you. Eastern suburbs have good schools because they’ll settle for nothing less. Cleveland doesn’t because the mentality is that school is where you spend time until you’re old enough to stop doing that. Education is not valued for its own sake.
The education must begin by convincing parents what an enormous difference education will make in their children’s lives so that they instill the same value in their children. This comes long before more money, newer buildings, and higher salaries, all of which is wasted on a system that’s not supported by its clientele.
You mentioned media involvement. How ‘bout regular public service messages (or sponsored by local banks or whoever stands to gain in the long term) aimed at parents that hammer at the importance of parental caring and involvement (in contrast to the third grade teacher who’d be pleased to see two parent show up), and highlighting achievements of systems (or more likely, individual schools) that have made great strides long before they got great financing. Surly those can be found in Harlem, Detroit, Chicago, and elsewhere.
State-of-the-art stadiums are neat (but not as neat as Fenway!) and the Rock Hall was a nice catch, demonstrating that you can get what you demand and you demand what’s of high value to you.
Until people rally around good schools with the same enthusiasm that brought stadiums and House of Blues and Hard Rock Cafe and sports contenders and all those fun things, it makes no sense to blithely recite the same glib stuff about better schools. It’s trite and it’s empty until people look in the mirror and hold themselves accountable for their part in the process.
Go git ‘em, Media!!
I listened with great interest to "Cleveland Cafe" tonight. It was very good, thought-provoking, and well thought out. I hope it continues.
The comments about the state of education in Cleveland were most interesting to me. You see, I recently re-entered the teaching profession. I teach at an inter-city high school and the experience has been eye-opening, to say the least. My biggest surprise came when one of my colleagues was exressing her frustrations with a parent who would not sign any scolarship applications for her child. It seems that quite a few parents don't want their child to graduate and go to college because the child will then be smarter than the parent. I was stunned.
There are also problems with parent who view school with animosity and trepidation. They have had bad experiences when they went to school and they don't see any reason to think that a parent-teacher conference will be any different. The teachers frequently don't know how to listen and they don't use vocabulary that isn't jargon ridden and technical.
Maybe we need to get the parents involved in their children's schools early so they feel that they are accomplishing something. They need to see the need for their child's success in school. Maybe we should, also, train teachers and administrators to listen better and commicate with, and not talk at, parents.
We really enjoyed the show !My wife and I are life long reidents of Cleveland. My question is, of all the guests on the show,who was a resident of Cleveland?
Hello Tim and Sam:
Although I think this first show fell short of its concept (I'll explain), I hope there are more "Cleveland Cafes." I was born here, lived here until age 9 when my parents moved the family to Southern Calif. After 43 yrs in L.A. I moved back to this area last year. Interestingly, in Cleveland the talk is how to keep people from leaving. In L.A. it's how to keep the illegal immigrants out--or re the proplems with how to accommodate everyone!
Your show tonight started off by making a good point--that newcomers to Cleveland love the city while longtime residents seem to have given up. I think some of that comes from a need to "justify" our reasons for moving here, however I would have liked to hear more about other people's reasons for stayng or leaving. Despite the schools, poverty, crime, deteriorating neighborhoods and other serious issues, I suspect that a primary reason for disenchantment is the weather. Cleveland winters can really shut down your enthusiasm.
Unfortunately, I so not feel that the guests on this show come close to representing the population at-large. Dr. McDavid had some good comments, however she was poorly matched with Chef Rocco (blatant self-promotion) and the PR gal with the botox lips, who's apparently moving back to NY anyway. Both of you are in positions to meet the REAL people of Cleveland, thus I was surprised by those two choices. In regards to your concept of providing "a platform for opinions and voices not often heard on television," I was expecting more diversity, not a white collar business lunch.
I don't very often like local talk show's, but his one was great. It touched on some important issues and left room to discuss others in the future. For Cleveland to revive the success that it had in the frst half of the 1900's it has to solve the education and the social economic problems. A key componet to the success of this city and NEO, is regionalism. We can no longer afford to compete against each other for business. This area boasts a strong financial market and leads the world in the medical field. These are the assets that we need to capitalize on to revive this great city and NEO. We need to work as one to attract business back to NEO. Once we do that we will be able to solve our problems and we will revive the successes of the past. Remember when we called this the Best Location in the Nation, it is time to do that again. If we don't believe it, no one else will either. I hope you explore these topics in the future.
Great Job.....
Tracy
The reason your people couldn't understand Clevlanders attitude on the sorry condition of Cleveland is that none of them lived here in the pre bussing and pre NAFTA days..
Get rid of NAFTA and bussing for starters...return the schools to neighborhoods. return the jobs to America from NAFTA,CAFTA, WORLD TRADE
and get out of the worthless U.N.
I thought today's show was excellent. The format was very good. Of course it wasn't long enough to fully explore the various questions raised, that would be a good addition, extra time.
What are we talking about? Exactly what you just talked about. Me and a couple of buddies talk about "What does NE Ohio in general and Cleveland specifically need in order to thrive again."
Unlike your co-producer, I do not think regionalism is the answer. However I do agree with focusing on the family structure and supporting things like that. But I am sure he would also throw more money at it.
I did some research about the Cleveland Public School system. In their own words they said they were spending about $8000 per child on the children. I looked up the number of enrolled children and then their budget and did simple math. Do you realize the overhead of supporting each child is 100% ? Yes for each child enrolled they spend $16,000/child. And OH that doesn't include the $2 Billion that Barbara Byrd Bennett said was for Capital Improvements.
Excuse me? THIS isn't enough?
Lets take North Ridge Academy for instance (I think that's the name of it). Lets see, for $15,000 per student per year paid by parents they are virtually guaranteed that their kid will:
1) Go to college, any college,
2) have about a 25% chance of being accepted into an Ivy league school.
So the difference isn't the money and I wouldn't pay a dime more if I lived in Cleveland.
The Parents and community is where something is missing. There ARE teachers that aren't dedicated but I don't really believe it is 100% of them.
So keep talking. Keep exploring. Getting people to LIVE in downtown is a stupid waste of money. That is not needed, how about creating an easy business climate. How about going to the State of Ohio and asking for a State Abatement for Cuyahoga county. There are other ways to attract business without giving away everything.
And putting in Shopping Malls is not going to get people to spend their money. Getting high paying jobs and skills is where it is at. These people look at singleton solutions and not holistic, systemic solutions.
Look at, I think it is, Oakland where systemically they cracked down on development so that all development has a common look and appeal, and how they are dealing with their problems systemically, not piecemeal "well that didn't work, what's next" as if a band-aid approach would work.
Sorry to done on. I really liked your program.
-T-
The show is a good idea. I'm not a native either being from upstate NY. Cleve needs to focus on its greatest strengths..Cleve Clinic and Univ Hosps. These are large, good citizens who can provide a cohesiveness to Cleve's identity crisis. I often think Cleve doesn't know what it wants to be when it grows up. Not all support sports or music or arts, but in one way or another all relate to medicine. Doesn't sound sexy, but NY's and others "Got Milk?" pulled an identity together that hasn't near the calling card of medicine. I would love to see the cultural feel of the east side of Cleveland root itself into the whole of Cleve. The beauty of medicine is that it has a branch in the arts and therefore can synthesize the other highly esteemed attributes such as the orchestra, museum of art, science. We really need to stop ignoring these gems and put them in the forefront where they can attract expansion for business. Doesn't everyone agree that medicine is the GM, FORD, and others of the future? I could go further but it doesn't take that much imagination. I hope.
Thanks for the show, I've never been inspired to write before..but I hope your efforts lead to change and not just another opportunity to recycle the past.
Bev Carrick
I think its about time a program is put on TV like this! It gives great exposure to what is "good" in Cleveland and inroduces the greater area (almost 4 million people) the chance to learn about are region. Discussing our woes in this manner allows viewers to hear different sides of issues - not just what is pounded on us by TV networks and the PD. It's about time we here some more positive besides the standard "Our sports are bad, or weather is bad, everyone moves away, etc etc" - Wake up Cleveland - its a beautiful morning out there!
More! More! More!
Hello,
I just wanted to say I love the show. Personally, I am a young professional who is worried about the future of Cleveland especially the economic side of the puzzle. One of my biggest complaints is we hear too much about the negative of Greater Cleveland but we never see programing dedicated to discussing how Cleveland can move beyond the industrial base to retain young people. I think you could use this format to discuss this topic or other economic and cultural issues.
hi love the show concept but i think you need to add another person... a working class, blue collar type person who could add another point of view. just my thoughts
iliked the show. hope the talk leads to some positive actions. safty in traveling about cleveland should be talked about.
please keep the show going
senior
I listened to your show with Dr. McDavid. First of all I was in awe as I listened to Tim White. Tim made a statement regarding a topic of childbearing. Tim stated that sterilization could be a possibilty instead of youth having children. I feel their is so many variables behind parenting. Meaning the one case that was discussed with woman with the disability and her child drowning. I felt a rush of contempt for that statement, I thought about who are the majority of women who's having children, African Americans. Who are the people living in poverty. I see Tim White is just that.
My wife and I watched "Cleveland Cafe" this Sunday morning and enjoyed it immensely. As an educator in a suburb of Cleveland, I feel that dialogue in the community is an important starting point in the need for change. As someone that grew up in surrounding Cleveland, I often have mixed emotions about the city that I love. My wife on the other hand is one of those "outsiders" that came into the community and has embraced all that Cleveland has to offer. I whole-heartedly agree that education is the foundation for a thriving community, and I love Tim's comments about the media's role in the community as a medium for positive interaction with the people in the community. I can't wait for the next "Cleveland Cafe"!
I watched Cleveland Cafe today and found myself 'talking' amongst everyone. I feel that you began to hit on several important issues.I am currently a teacher within the Cleveland Municipal School District, so obviously education is a personal issue for me. I have been teaching, in Cleveland, for 13 years. I have taught wonderful children and hope I have made a difference. The past 3 years have been very difficult and with the addition of 6,7,8th grades, it has just been a nightmare. In my 13 years, a mayor has yet to visit our school. Barbara Byrd Bennett did ONCE. I feel you can't help some of the problems if you don't experience first hand what is going on. During the cafe' conversations, I was especially happy to hear Tim White say that there needs to be responsibility associated with money that is given. At our school, students receive all supplies, they receive breakfast AND lunch, and they receive clothing...if needed. Unfortunately, there isn't always gratitude for those necessities..it's just expected.
I think it would be interesting to have a round table of teachers from the suburbs, inner city, and out lying areas. I am sure that the concerns would be very different.
Currently, almost 300 teachers will be leaving the district. Those experienced, dedicated teachers will be replaced with younger, unexperienced teachers.
What is going to happen? Will these new teachers stay for 30 years? I doubt it.
Thank you for providing the opportunity to express some thoughts.
My wife and I watched "Cleveland Cafe" this Sunday morning and enjoyed it immensely. As an educator in a suburb of Cleveland, I feel that dialogue in the community is an important starting point in the need for change. As someone that grew up in surrounding Cleveland, I often have mixed emotions about the city that I love. My wife on the other hand is one of those "outsiders" that came into the community and has embraced all that Cleveland has to offer. I whole-heartedly agree that education is the foundation for a thriving community, and I love Tim's comments about the media's role in the community as a medium for positive interaction with the people in the community. I can't wait for the next "Cleveland Cafe"!
I felt aweful hearing what Tim White had to say regarding sterilization for controlling childbearing. I believe there are so many variables in a person situation. Tim to me sounds like a conservative. So that thinking doesn't surprise. The race that lives in poverty are Blacks and the race that has more than single parent home are Blacks, so are you saying we should be sterile?
I have been a resident of the Cleveland Area for 65 years, with exception of 4 years in the Air Force. The problems are to many for Cleveland: Who is taking ownership of our schools? What percentage of parents actually own there homes (to pay taxes) vs. children going to school? You have to pay for what you get, life is not FREE.......How do you educate children in elementary school that having out of wedlock sex is not correct. Someone must step up and make unpopular decisions to make things happen. We need discipline in our homes, work and schools. But who is going to be the BAD person to tell anyone in this society that their behavior is going to change for the betterment of the community, long range.
Good morning,
First time viewer that only saw the last ten minutes, but just like a book, "read the first chapter and the last and you pretty much have it!" and I loved and encourage the show! I get together with groups of people to discuss these issues once and a while and it is very stimulating! As has been said before,"Dont get angry, get involved!"
Three years ago I moved from the the "INNER RING" to CENTER STAGE" Downtown Cleveland to become more involved as a person, an artist and a REALTOR! I have totally enjoyed the move and ask you to involve those two fields of expertise in one of your future shows! I would be happy to participate to represent either or both of those arenas!
We need to "rewrite the recipe" to create a stronger society, a better Cleveland ,which will result in a stronger region and in turn or return to THE GREATEST PLACE TO LIVE!!
A recipe is made up of ingredients and processes, of which the old ones are not working well, because since the womens movement, society has gone in a different direction! That is just a point in time,NOT A SLAM ON WOMEN!
I would like to see parental involvement in the show, from families that are doing it the old fashioned way: ie,Mom and Dad under one roof of which one is a stay at home parent!The separated and divorced families, single Moms and Dads, and the blended families!
It's time to take a new direction with the old compass! The Government, the media and society have to be restirred in this recipe with the same basic ingredients!
Rear Sirs, I really enjoyed your show. Althought it only shimmed the surface. There are so many issue that effect us all that dialog like this can be an asset. I like to join in with some views that may be of interest.jrarfitness@hotmai.com
Good morning,
First time viewer that only saw the last ten minutes, but just like a book, "read the first chapter and the last and you pretty much have it!" and I loved and encourage the show!
I get together with groups of people to discuss these issues once and a while and it is very stimulating! As has been said before,
"Dont get angry, get involved!"
"Stop the finger pointing and start talking!"
Three years ago I moved from the the "INNER RING" to CENTER STAGE" Downtown Cleveland to become more involved as a person, an artist and a REALTOR! I have totally enjoyed the move and ask you to involve those two fields of expertise in one of your future shows! I would be happy to participate to represent either or both of those arenas!
In keeping with the menu/food motif.........
cuz food brings people together!!
We need to "rewrite the recipe" to create a stronger society, a better Cleveland ,which will result in a stronger region and in turn or return to THE GREATEST PLACE TO LIVE!!
A recipe is made up of ingredients and processes, of which the old ones are not working well, because since the womens movement, society has gone in a different direction! That is just a point in time,NOT A SLAM ON WOMEN!
I would like to see parental involvement in the show, from families that are doing it the old fashioned way: ie,Mom and Dad under one roof of which one is a stay at home parent!The separated and divorced families, single Moms and Dads, and the blended families!
It's time to take a new direction with the old compass! The Government, the media and society have to be restirred in this recipe with the same basic ingredients.......people and ideas!
Hello Mr. White,
I mangaged to catch the last half hour of the show Sunday morning and thought the it can serve a great purpose to the city of Cleveland and its people. As an MBA student at Kent State University, we are actually examining several of the issues (and more) that were discussed in the show, mostly in an effort to come up with ideas to improve the city. For my business strategy course, each student is preparing an analysis of the issues most crucial to Cleveland, including poverty, education, housing, transportation, "brain drain", etc. Specifically in my case, I am interested in staying in the area if the right opportunities exist, but am afraid that better opportunities might exist in other cities (as Aaron- H.S. student mentioned). Overall I think the show was great and hope that it will continue to be aired (potentially with KSU students as panel members??)
Sal Schiavone
sschiavo@kent.edu
Tim,
The show is a step in the right direction. I think that you should include the views of those living inside of the city. Those that live with the problems of the city everyday. The crime, the failing school system the poverty.
Lets get their opinion on a solution. What they think would make a difference. Tackle the issues one at a time and ensite actionable next steps to fix the problems instead of idle talk in hopes that someone will step up and do something.
Public discourse on issues is a start but action is required to make change.
I really enjoyed Cleveland Cafe...in fact so much so, that I watched it on Saturday night, and then when I found it again on Sunday morning, watched it again to see if I had missed anything! The diners were well selected, and the format informal, interesting, and welcoming. I hope that there will be more shows like this...so needed for local TV and, certainly, Cleveland could use some good PR. I'd love to see some of the local business people, some of the young movers and shakers who are truly capable of turning this city and its attitude around...less of the politicos who can't seem to see past their own agendas to make this city proud again. Thank you...please repeat often...would love it weekly! Cathy Doyle
I thoroughly enjoyed Cleveland Cafe...in fact so much so, that I watched it on Saturday night,and when I found it on Sunday morning, I watched it again to see if I had missed anything! The diners were well selected; the format informal, interesting,and welcoming. This is a wonderful addition to local TV and could be a powerful thrust for change to the attitude of Clevelanders. I would like to see this on weekly, and would love to see local business people, and young movers and shakers who are capable of changing the mood of the city; very few politicians please who have their own agendas and are too short-sighted to see for forest for the trees. Please keep up this type of programming...keep this show, it was wonderful. Cathy Doyle
I really enjoyed the show. It was fresh and unrehearsed. I came in towards the middle, so I did not really connect with the people - as to who they were - only as the subtitles identifying them. Is the chef a former Hawken or Gilmour student? I noticed that he mentioned both of those schools.
I hope you will do this show, again.
estay
To: Sam, Tim and all other guests
Great conversation, good topics, this type of forum should have been done years ago. Hearing other people view points beside politicians give the unknown and the pepole that are not involed into politic a voice. Everyone have ideas and something to say to move Cleveland in the right direction.
My name is Bruce Martin and I am a resident of East Cleveland.I would love to be invited to Cleveland Cafe and talk about our great city and other issues; espeacilly those pertaining to ex-felonies: how to keep them employed,using their experiences, help mentoring the youth and etc..
Thank you,
Bruce Martin
www.bmartin1811@sbcglobal.net
To: Sam, Tim and all other guests
Great conversation, good topics, this type of forum should have been done years ago. Hearing other people view points beside politicians give the unknown and the pepole that are not involed into politic a voice. Everyone have ideas and something to say to move Cleveland in the right direction.
My name is Bruce Martin and I am a resident of East Cleveland.I would love to be invited to Cleveland Cafe and talk about our great city and other issues; espeacilly those pertaining to ex-felonies: how to keep them employed,using their experiences, help mentoring the youth and etc..
Thank you,
Bruce Martin
www.bmartin1811@sbcglobal.net
Enjoyed the format of the show. May be interesting to invite individuals who have invested money in Cleveland and are now investing in other cities (i.e. Forest City, John Ferchill). What suggestions do they have for improvement and growth?
An interesting change to the local media landscape.
No parent should be afraid to come to a parent-teacher conference about their kid, no matter what. If nothing else, it shows the student that his parents really care about him. I was a teacher for 28 years in Ravenna, by the way. Now I am a tutor.
I thought this was an excellent program. I feel compelled to comment, however, on Tim White's remarks regarding the problem of inadequate parenting ("Should these people be having children?").
Of course, Tim, these people should not be having children. But they do and they did. Your comment is a perfect example of what is wrong with conservative thinking. Instead of trying to find solutions and deal with situations, your only offering to the table was a blanket condemnation of the offenders. No progress will ever be made if the leaders of this city and of this country can think of nothing better to do than wallow in their righteous indignation.
That said, I hope to see more editions of Cleveland Café.
I thought this was one of the best shows I have seen in a long time. The panel was diverse and expressed many great points of view.
We need to look at the past to learn what put us in the position we are presently in. I believe that when mandated busing was put in place we started the downhill slide.
I don't think that going back to segregated schools is the right thing to do, but certainly the concept of neighborhood schools is best for elementary schools. There are ways to have children learn about the diverse cultures that the City has. Many of us grew up in the period of time of the 1950's and 1960's where there were many immigrants here as a result of World War II and we got along. There can be multi-cultural events that bring the various groups together to learn from each other.
We must remember that when busing was put in place, parents feared what there children would face and the long trips to and from school. Ignorance is worse that fact. The flight of those who had the ability to leave, left the City with those who could not leave and the least ability to cope with what was left.
Our education system must be changed to recognize that not everyone is meant to go to college.
There are many intelligent people who perform great services to our community without ever having gone to college. There are people who are intimidated by tests and who learn from visual and tactile methods. We had at one time schools like Max Hayes and Jane Adams that catered to those who wanted to do things other than theoretical physics or write the next great novel. The building construction trades are not getting the apprentices that are needed to replace the jouneymen that are retiring. This would be a great place for a co-op program in high schools to become involved.
There could be magnet type schools for the academically talented to attend and receive accelerated coures that would lead to college.
Remeber that the community college system was meant to allow people and open enrollment program for those who could not qualify for other colleges and universities.
Who are the advocates for the students if it is not the parents and the school board. It seems that those who start out to help soon get wrapped up in their own importance and become more concerned about their own agenda.
There many other surrounding communities that are facing the same issues and maybe it is time to create a regional authority to address some of the major issues, and if it works move on to more complex issues.
It is time to look at what is best for the City and not just what is best for a particular ward.
If we do not become a regional force that encompasses the police and fire departments, then it is likely that these service people will also leave the City as soon as they are allowed by statute.
The City needs a strategic plan that is not influenced by the politicians in power. The plan must rise above politics and look into the future no matter who is in power.
Although I live in a Cleveland suburb, I know that my life style and interests are inluenced by the City of Cleveland. I was born in Cleveland and when I graduated from college returned to Cleveland to work. Work eventually took me to other parts of the country, but when I retired we returned back to the place we loved. It takes people from remote cities who visit to remind us of the great City that we have.
Bill Schlatterbeck
Olmsted Falls
My husband and I found the show enlightening.These are troubled times that we live in and there are so many problems that need to be addressed. It is good to see people coming together for answers rather than finger pointing. Perhaps the next round table could comment on the impact of state funds diminishing and federal mandates increasing. ie; education. Keep up the innovative work.
Nice job Tim and Sam. I enjoyed the show. You assembled a nice group for the first discussion. It is hard to disagree that education is a major need in the community, and that the media has tremendous power to effect the understanding of a story, or issue.
Since you only have a half hour to work with I suggest that you two choose a main topic or several possible topics for discussion; the schools, city employees living in the city,regionalism, etc.
You might want to consider inviting a "regular" guy or gal that grew up in the area to be on the panel. Rocco to some degree filled this spot, but he has become a celebrity through his hard work and generosity.
If you need someone like that I may be available.
Ned
I enjoyed your first airing of the Cleveland Cafe. New, refreshing, community input & thought provoking. It’s a winner!
I was born and raised in Cleveland, have lived in the South most of my adult life. Moved back to Cleveland in the past 5 years, I was sad to see the state of the City.
I love this City, and wish to see it prosper once again.
In addition to the topic of Schools and what will make Cleveland a better place, I have a thought for an upcoming show.
It is my opinion in order to make this great city a better place to live and thrive we should focus to attract and increase visibility with new corporations for new employment opportunities. We have so much to offer with the Pro teams, to art, theater and so on.
No more out sourcing, by attracting new growth, providing other opportunities for companies to come and stay in Cleveland. Let’s clean those empty old buildings, make new commitments and bring out sourcing to Cleveland. We all would have a vested interest to see this city thrive once again.
The growth of Atlanta, Baltimore, Indianapolis, attracted new development, repaired and upgraded their down town and urban cities. We need to take ownership of this great City, and by discussing and brainstorming on your show might bring new ideas from your bright, creative listening audience.
Thinking outloud
I enjoyed your first airing of the Cleveland Cafe. New, refreshing, community input & thought provoking. It’s a winner!
I was born and raised in Cleveland, have lived in the South most of my adult life.I love this City, and wish to see it prosper once again.
In addition to the topic of Schools and what will make Cleveland a better place, I have a thought for an upcoming show.
It is my opinion in order to make this great city a better place to live and thrive we should focus to attract and increase visibility with new corporations for new employment opportunities. No more out sourcing, by attracting new growth, providing other opportunities for companies to come and stay in Cleveland. Let’s clean those empty old buildings, make new commitments and bring out sourcing to Cleveland. We all would have a vested interest to see this city thrive once again.
The growth of Atlanta, Baltimore, Indianapolis, attracted new development, repaired and upgraded their down town and urban cities. We need to take ownership of this great City, and by discussing and brainstorming on your show might bring new ideas from your bright, creative listening audience. Best of Luck!
Thinking outloud
I enjoyed your first airing of the Cleveland Cafe. New, refreshing, community input & thought provoking. It’s a winner!
I was born and raised in Cleveland, have lived in the South most of my adult life.
I love this City, and wish to see it prosper once again.
In addition to the topic of Schools and what will make Cleveland a better place, I have a thought for an upcoming show.
It is my opinion in order to make this great city a better place to live and thrive we should focus to attract and increase visibility with new corporations for new employment opportunities. No more out sourcing, by attracting new growth, providing other opportunities for companies to come and stay in Cleveland. Let’s clean those empty old buildings, make new commitments and bring out sourcing to Cleveland. We all would have a vested interest to see this city thrive once again.
The growth of Atlanta, Baltimore, Indianapolis, attracted new development, repaired and upgraded their down town and urban cities. We need to take ownership of this great City, and by discussing and brainstorming on your show might bring new ideas from your bright, creative listening audience.
Thinking outloud
While I sat and watched about 1/2 the show last night I see there are alot of good people which can influence this town. Thing is when you consider from what Tim said that the media has a direct influence what we see, hear, and experience to some degree. Maybe a few independent people who are influencial. There are media types like Bob Golic and Howie Chizek (Http://www.wnir.com) who people hear daily, talk about local and national topics. Also there is the more influencial radio, print, and television. I hope to catch more of these programs, and see where it heads jimdakotart
Hi Tim,
We enjoyed the show this morning.
Reminded me of the conversations I had at Akron U during some prep courses for teaching. But I see that little has changed.
The jazz music was a nice touch too.
You did a good job bringing everyone into the conversation.
The pediatrician brought up a good point but was careful not to push too far when she mentioned the schools. She said that others may not be able to adequately advance their cause because of social status or education. It does seem that some teachers are not sensitive or are too protective of their territory.
This might be a controversial topic to pursue in the future.
We'll keep an eye on the show for some more great conversations.
I can see that if you do take the show to the West Side it might bring some of the local residents into the mix.
I have to tell you. I was helping a friend work on a West Side house the last couple of days. Over by Ohio City. There are some great things happening over there.
This show is what we need to bring the real neighborhood issues to the table.
Looking for a restaurant? How about the little place on Bridge? Just down the street from the "market". Or maybe from the market itself.
Thanks for a great begining,
Louis and Liz
What happened to asking for input from "Voucher" private schools that are an alternative to Cleveland Public School System?
You should consider this alternative while discussions continue on fixing Cleveland
Public School Education system
in its present state?
One of the best discussions on Cleveland in a long time. Enjoy it!
The basic issues of Cleveland Schools is a lack of tax base, lack of parental involvement, lack of a dress code, lack of discipline with real consequences, lack of respect for people and authority.
Barry
Nice Show. It's great that you had a diverse group of individuals. I liked part of Tim's final question, "what are you going to do to help change Cleveland".
Matt
Hope there will be more Cafes -- the topics are limitless.
Tim and Sam
Great show! Interesting format.We need to get people in the city talking directly about the problems and opportunities that we all face. I am looking for future programs.
You need to have more advertising for future shows.
Tim
WHAT I ENJOYED MOST ABOUT THE SHOW:
PEOPLE WITH DIFFERENT IDEAS AND OPINIONS HAVING A REAL DISCUSSION WITHOUT THE YELLING, SCREAMING AND NAMECALLING THAT USUALLY PREVAILS.
RICK
I agree, solid concept and good discussion... Perhaps a discussion on how we can create jobs by implementing sustainability initiatives that can lend to the success of the region and in turn fix the schools and any number of other issues...
We need more of this. Especially engaging citizens on the condition of our Cleveland Schools. I would like to see an evening with some local community members and parents to talk more about how we can join forces and work with other Ohio communities to improve our high schools. Some of the comments made on Saturday illustrating how different our children and parents are today was well presented by the Doctor.
Once someone asked why don't parents take more interest in their children in high school? My immediate answer was, "no one asked?"
Your idea is simple, but effective. We do not like large town meetings where we get 3-5 minutes to voice our ideas, concerns, etc. We need small groups, where we can share our values and seek ways to solve school, community and regional problems.
Great! Do More of the same!
Tim/Sam:
Great show, great format, great diversity. Half hour format too short. Withstanding lackluster leadership from the outgoing administration, an ongoing east/west divide, and a poor school system, I believe several factors contribute to Cleveland's inability to shed the "mistake by the lake" moniker. Why is there a rock hall when inductions are maintained at the Waldorf-Astoria? Post Detroit, why is there a domeless stadium near one of the coldest, turbulent lakes in North America? Can't the "dawg pound" and comfort coincide?
Sadly, it seems the only thing Cleveland has gotten right recently is LeBron, and we're all worried that if history again proves correct, his days may be numbered.
Mike
Akron
TV3 should be applauded for placing a show in prime time about the real concerns of our society and city!
I own a two east side buisines and am a part time educator and would love to see more vocational training after high school. I gree with the owner of the resturant that hiring educated and carring people is crucial to the overall success of a buisiness.
I would like a longer format, I would like to hear moer from Angela, why was she in such a hury to only make Cleveland apart time destination?
I grew upa nd still live in Euclid and it bothers me to hear people critize the schools in my community, Our schools have more opportunity for its student than most I do work at. The teachears at all schools are commited but the parents and students must want to learn and take advantage of the opportunities in front of them
Keep up the new show
Ron Kotar
Studio K Photography
Willoughby, Ohio
Tim and Sam...You guys are from the Washington area. You know that there are not so many local governments, school systems, fire departments and police departments in the Maryland area. Counties run the local government, not local chieftans with different agendas. For instance, Maryland has about 25 school systems and Ohio has over 680. Until these issues are looked at, regional issues will always be placed on the back burner. Think of all the money Ohio could save in administration costs if we simply went to a county run school system. When I bring this up for discussion, people think I'm from Mars instead of Maryland. ...By the way great show
I very much enjoyed the show. I thought it was fresh and interesting. I do agree with Tim regarding the media. If we spend more time focusing on the good, then maybe some good will come of it. So, yes, you should continue to have the Cleveland Cafe. And, you should feature different groups or people that have great ideas they have put into play, people that have great ideas they need to put into play and those that just have great ideas. Cleveland has so much to offerand we need to be reminded of that. Great job, Tim & Sam.
Great show! We hope there will be more Cleveland Cafes coming. The education of the Cleveland children is extremely important not only to the students but to the city. The high school student hit the nail on the head with his opinion on education and the City of Cleveland.
An extremely enjoyable show. I was very impressed with the participants and their thoughts and insight. Hope to see more of the show. Kudos to Tim and Sam for their relationsip and willingness to bring it to the public in this type of forum. You guys are on to something and I hope that you have the opportunity to continue.
I thought the show was excellent and there were a number of good comments. I too believe that education is one of the most important areas we should be spending more funds on and parents should be more involved.
The one area that all of you seemed to miss is that today, unlike when I went to school, in most cases both parents work. That makes for less to time to be able to attend parent teacher conferences. I believe parents today should make the time to attend these conferences.
I enjoyed the show very much. I saw the re-broadcast on Sunday morning. This is the kind of journalism this region needs. People need to realize what is bad for Cleveland is bad for the region. I think the media is partly to blaim. When most of what you hear on the economic news and read in the paper is negitive people believe the region is going down the tubes. We need more positive media coverage such as this show. We don't want ot become another Youngstown.
I felt the show was very well done and it is a necessary style of journalism. Please don't give up on this show.
• Find an appropriate time slot
• Advertise the show.
• Get the general public's opinion on issues.
• Get the business community involved; invite local business people to be guests on the show.
• Invite local, state and federal government representatives to be guests.
As far as topics for the show;
• What needs to be done to attract businesses to the Cleveland area?
o The area offers:
Reasonably priced land.
Great area museums.
• How can pride be renewed in Cleveland?
• What is good about Cleveland?
Thank you for the intelligent conversation on Cleveland Cafe. This has the makings of a very worthwhile and entertaining regular show. I hope that the concept will be further pursued. Mr. Tim White sets a tone of cordial, warm and intelligent discussion. Good luck.
I first want to congratulate Sam and Tim on a wonderful concept and hope you continue to air Cleveland Cafe.
My wife and I happened upon your show and believe in what your trying to do for all Clevelanders. We are both born and raised in the Cleveland area and have 3 kids who have experienced our city through the museums, shops, music halls, theatres, parks... the list goes on. I am one of many Clevelanders who are very passionate about my city and want to make a difference. Schools, Business, Social, Arts, they are all important to Cleveland. I think you can make this show a great catalyst for change if you give each panelist a goal... after the talk, go out and do something.
And please,please,please keep the politicians out of this forum... there are many great people out here you have yet to discover.
REFRESHING to see people acknowledging the issues before us in Cleveland.
The issue most important is race relations.NO MATTER what anyone says. Notice how the teen brought it up first. It's in the schools b/ Cleveland kids aren't born that way, these parents are breeding ignorance. People that need the most help don't want help. How do we change that way of thinking? Im a white woman who wants to be looked at as open minded by blacks, latinos, etc. Forget about your color and start living & loving for each other and for the benefit of yourself and your children. Know any black person can do what a white person can and maybe better. My husband is a police officer, and wants people to know that not all police are racist and out to get you. He does his job to HELP not to be on a power trip. OPENING MINDS is what this show is doing, and please don't stop. People are so quick to judge and defend. Lets start listening, and start doing, and not complain. I love Channel 3 News and we know your a fair Station. Thanks
While watching the recent programme on "Cleveland Cafe, I could not get beyond how similar it was to any one of the discussions in the series "A Quiet Crisis" aired on PBS.
Perhaps a show ought to put an end to the rehashing of what are clear problems and instead focus on putting people at your table with ideas and connecting them with capital to grow these ventures and keep them here in this splendid city of Cleveland.
I saw Cleveland Cafe this weekend, and liked it. I am an ex-Clevelander, now retired in Atlanta... a graduate of East Tech, who grew up in the Buckeye-Woodland area, obviously in a blue collar family.
The question that intrigues me is the question that concerns everybody --- why are people so unenthusiastic about a city that obviously has so much to offer in terms of life style?
I think it is economic. If more people grew up with good prospects for employment, saw lots of signs of success and prosperity around them, then they would more easily entertain the idea of staying in town.
Atlanta is different. Young people here love the city, cannot imagine living anywhere else, and need no prompting to embrace the future here. That's because they feel hope.
I like the show idea. In the future try other kinds of people. Go to some schools and find some parents who are active and successful, including working class and lower income people, and have them talk about THEIR Cleveland. Include more Rocco types, employers, who can say why they stay and what they need and whom they would employ.
Cleveland Cafe is a good idea.
I'm Ernie Holsendolph in Atlanta.
I think it's great! All the talk about Cleveland without the politics or media. Just real people talking about real issues. It really shows how Channel 3 isn't just another news station- but true Clevelanders who care. Good Work!
The most refreshing thing I've seen on Cleve television in years. Kudos to Tim and Sam. Thank God you didn't load it up with the usual socio/political faces. Keep it that way, down to earth, and you've got a real winner that might actually answer some area questions.
The format for this show is outstanding. Hopefully the locals will change and we'll get an overview of the city in general. Your cross section of guests was excellent, the young man Aaron being the most insightful I must say. The only way to truly reach Clevelanders is to talk up close and personal to the people of Cleveland. I felt comfortable that your show as speaking to both my neighbor in the City and my friend out in the suburbs. The focus shouldn't always be on the problems, highlight the positive aspects of the city. Good job, hope to see you again soon.
Tim,
Great show. Great topics and wonderful insight. It was interesting to hear the different opinions.
I hope this is the beginning of many more to come.
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I truly enjoyed this program and the unique forum that can be enjoyed by all. I loved the fact that you were able to see how differently everyone sees the issues of our city and yet have a commonality. Fahrenheit is a wonderful restaurant. I'm excited to see where you will dine next.
My only suggestion would be to make it a full hour program.
Tim and Sam,
Great show! I liked the mix of people that presented their ideas and thoughts. I hope there are plans for more shows to be aired.
My wife and I watched the initial show last night and really enjoyed it. Profound topic, good range of people involved. I especially feel that we need a community involvement (public and private) to create an environment that will lead to successes for parents, and early successes for children. We cannot allow all entry level jobs to be outsourced.
Bill
Excellent show, the concept was quite revealing for the newcomer and the native to the city. Bring in more of the everyday stake holders within the community to the dinner table that were mentioned on the first show, eg. educators, laborers, hip-hop generation, mainstream americans, librarians etc. Keep the diversity as a key component for selecting the guest, everyone needs to see an example of themselves @ the table since the city is rich in culture!
Excellent show -- very impressed with the format, opinions. I was born, raised, educated and work in Cleveland but, no question, the city has changed, but I'm not sure all of the residents have. The more I travel, the more I like Cleveland but the City has to do a better job of salesmanship. Cleveland was a major "blue shirt" city -- manufacturing, auto, retaiiing. It was the largest clothing manufacturer outside of New York. Euclid Avenue was a major street. All that has changed. Today, the city is more into science, health care, research. Our economy has not kept pace with the rest of the country and our city leaders --business and political need to be more dynamic. Our educational system needs to vastly improve. At one time, the Cleveland School district and the suburban schools were the envy of the country. It also starts with parental concerns and involvement.
I look forward to your next program.
Donald Jaffe
I enjoyed the show very much. I was a little unhappy that it pre-empted Meet the Press, but if you continue the show, I will be a faithful viewer!
Karen Stencil
I thought it was a great program and moderated well!
I hope this show stays on!
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Good show...please have more. The quests were very interesting, and the doctor's points were right on the mark. It was nice to have people discuss topics in a civilized manner without blame and finger pointing.
Please, no alcohol when minors are included around the table
EXCELLENT! EXCELLENT! A great format (similar to "Dinner for Five" on IFC) that needs to continue. Here's my guest list for next time: Ted Ginn, Doug Trattner, Andrew May, MaryBeth Matthews (who writes a blog about teaching at Max Hayes and was featured in the PD), and Sue Dorfer (president, LGBT Center)
I normally would not be attracted to this type of show but started watching during some channel surfing and then never changed the channel.
Looking forward to the next episode.
I thought the show was interesting. I'm in my mid 50's, but my 21 year old nephew also watched and commented on the views expressed. This type of show should continue- if not on the air, at least the Cafe could continue and the dialog could be posted or printed.
Really a terrific idea and show overall. Kudos to Tim, Sam, WKYC, et.al. There is such a dearth of this kind of direct, honest and thoughtful local programming being delivered here that I am almost reluctant to critique what you've done at all. Maybe just a couple of things. I don't know if you can find the extra advertiser(s), but the show could really use a full hour to give the participants each a little more meaningful air time and give the overarching conversation more cohesiveness. Very good choice in not having any politicians there in favor of the city's real "doers". I vote for keeping them out entirly for the run of the show.
Good job as moderator Tim, but you should let the people finish their thoughts a little longer before jumping in with your comments.
I think you should keep the wine flowing at a reasonable level because it makes for more candid discussion, but the moderator ought to stay perfectly sober.
If you don't take a single suggestion, though, keep this going! It was great and I will continue to tune in regularly.
I liked the show and wouldnt mind seeing it on a monthly basis.
I thought the show was interesting and thought provoking. I like the idea of everyone sitting at a table in a relaxed mood. I like the diversity . I would like to see more time spent on some positive aspects of the ciyt and the school sytem. Specificaly, there are some youth who are doing very well in school but we don't get to hear about them enough. How about a panel of youth who are doing well, youth who are at risk and parents as well.
How about doing a show on the importance of early care/education and have representatives form the county's Invest in Children, which focuses on child birth to 5?
One of the freshest shows I've seen in a long time. Interesting subject matter and a discussion rather than a shouting fest. Please air additional shows.
As the owner of clevelandcafe.com, I was curious when I saw the title Cleveland Cafe appear in the programming guide. I'm a big fan of Tim White, so I was pleasantly surprised when I watched the show and saw this format. I hope to see a variety of guests from different parts of town, and different backgrounds.
Very interesting concept in local programming.
This ewas a very different approach to raise issues that affect Greater Clevelanders. This is a bold idea. Keep up the good work and fresh ideas.
1) I moved here in 1998, and can't say I'm as impressed with Cleveland as Tim White and Sam Fulwood seem to be as outsiders.
If you aren't looking specifically for cultural attractions, there's not that much to do.
2) Regionalism won't work if it means any of the leaders of the City of Cleveland are involved in any regional leadership positions. Cleveland proper IS the problem, not the suburbs, and suburbanites are not going to turn over resources to the people who can't run Cleveland efficiently.
3) If you want a REAL discussion, don't have 1/3 of the panel be journalists. A journalism degree does not convey expert status on ANY subject. Sam and Tim threw way too many of their opinions into the conversation.
Great discourse. I flipped on the re-air Sunday and was entranced for the next 30 minutes - not sure that's ever happened with local programming. Fantastic beginning dialogue, hope that it continues and that this city embraces it/uses it to foster continuing 'real live' dialogues off-camera.
"Cleveland Cafe" is a welcomed addition to TV programming. I think the subject matter was relevant to every community, not just Cleveland. This gives an opportunity for everyday folks to add their ideas and opinions that wouldn't normally be heard, including high school students. Hopefully, people who are in positions to change things will listen to these ideas, and not be afraid to try and/or implement them. Keep politics out of it, there is no time for finger pointing. We have children & families falling through the cracks that need help now!
Vocational education with work study programs has a definite place in any community. High school is a perfect place to take the time to "experiment" with what job they may want to do. It's hard to do after you're on your own and responsible for paying the bills, to change course and try to work while finding time & money for studies later on, especially if you have a family to take care of at the same time. College isn't an interest for everyone, but at least vocational training can give someone a starting place above minimum wage.
I hope to see this show as a regular program, it has a lot of potential. I would really like it expanded to an hour to allow for more detailed discussion or multiple issues.
Finally a refreshing local show. Not the same political wind bags and talk show hosts you constantly see on TV and hear on radio. I like the format. I enjoyed the feel of confrontation based on each of the panels perceived mind set of the cleveland area. Would hope that all could move from the racial issue. Strongly agree that lack of parenting skills effect the positive influence on todays youth. We have grandparents raising grandchildren, while those same grandparents couldn't effectively raise their own children. Look forward to the next show. Life long resident of Northern Ohio.
I couldn't agree with Sam Fulwood more. There is no place in school for kids who are not going to college. I was a teacher in an Akron middle school when shop classes were dropped. Attendance and school spirit dropped at the same time. The Swiss school system has provisions for everyone to succeed according to their interests and abilities and it works very well. Perhaps we should do something similar.
Great show. Keep up the good work.
As a graduate of the Cleveland Public Schools,CCC,CSU and former resident of the Lee-Harvard area, I was so pleased to watch the Cleveland Cafe. To know that there is a concern among the general public regarding the future of the Cleveland Schools and the City of Cleveland, is comforting to me. I am sadden to see that the city and school system I love, appear to have been left in the care of persons who could care less. I strongly believe that until the schools are managed by a "homegrown" ceo, someone who knows the neighborhoods and the problems that the children of cleveland encounter, there won't be any changes. The children and community must have better.
I really enjoyed the show. One thing I would love for you to focus on are things that the average person in Greater Cleveland can do to help make Cleveland better. I'd also love to hear about downtown development and progress on the schools. One thing I would love to see is an outreach to the alumni of our Cleveland schools. There are so many Greater Clevelanders who trace their roots back to Cleveland schools who are now successful and well-established members of our community. Maybe the support and active outreach to the alumni of the various schools would help them to improve. Maybe have open houses so alumni can see their former school and volunteer to help. It truly does take a village. Maybe one of your Cleveland Cafes can be in a renovated school. Good luck!
This show is what local television is missing in this GREAT town!
When will a new show be on?
It was nice to see an a show like this on the airwaves. I just hope TV 3 picks it up and runs with it.
I don't understand why Tim defined the good people of Cleveland as being "god-fearing" among other things. What does one's views on god or religion have to do with being a good person?
As a young professional from the Greater Cleveland area, I am sometimes discouraged by the lack of other young professionals around here. There seem to be few young, intelligent people to befriend. That is extremely discouraging and makes myself, as well as some of my peers, feel a need to look beyond Cleveland for a more exciting personal life. Also more exciting job opportunities appear to exist much more in other locations.
I loved the show! I've been in Cleveland for 2 years and have observed a lot of the things you discussed. This is a great concept! Keep up the wonderful work you do!
My husband and I had just spent the day in Cleveland. We live in Cortland and enjoy a day in the area. It's a fun place to visit and through the years we have seen the area revitalized. It has changed in the 30 yrs. we have lived here. Thirty years ago on our first visit to Cleveland, I did not care if I ever returned as it was a dirty city and lake. I want the city to do well and I appreciated the round table discussion from people that I feel care and want to correct the problems. It's a great place to visit. Continue to promote Cleveland by emphasizing events that are happening on each newscast and also show clips of the history of Cleveland or great places to visit in the area. I hope to see more people in the community take part in the round table discussions and not politicians. I'm looking forward to the next one. You have much to be proud of!
I would have to agree with the blog by Jacqueline Knox Kelly. And a perfect example of those who profit by the good that Cleveland has to offer, but who runs and hides in the suburbs without being any help with solutions is the woman Angela Calman. While safely residing within the gated community in Bratenahl where she lived, she single -handedly destroyed a long standing and well functioning department at The Cleveland Clinic Foundation, formerly know as Media Services. Media services had served the Clinic well as far back as the days when film was used to record surgery. She basically destroyed that legacy, and the careers of most of the former members of the department, some who had been there for 28 years, providing loyal and caring service to the institution they loved, only to be leveraged out under pressure...losing their pension and more. Oh the stories that I could tell. The bottom line is, that she did not do this to serve the Clinic. She did this to pad her CV for HER career. Her continued B.S. evidenced by her participation in this show, proves to serve as an example of how its all about her. She is not even from the Cleveland Area!!! How dare she even express any sort of opinion about Cleveland as knowledgeable! She has no clue about the culture and caring that exists at the Cleveland Clinic, let alone the rest of the community! For the record, she is no longer at the Cleveland Clinic. The official line is that she "resigned". I am sure that she got more than she financially deserved, as part of an exit package. The rumor is that she was ousted, and I believe that is true. We are all still dying to know what the story is there. What's the story Dr. C?
Cleveland would be a better place without the likes of people like her. Self serving individuals like her are a cancer upon our society. Wanna get sick? Do a google on her name..... yup...it's all about HER!
Several people at the Cleveland Clinic I spoke with all said they just about puked when they saw her on T.V. She made a lot of enemies there, and left a long trails of bodies and broken dreams.
Do us a favor Calman.... say goodbye to Cleveland!
When will the next Cleve. Cafe air?
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