CLEVELAND -- Is the economy getting better? Is the glass half empty or half full?
Those questions being debated in light of new figures showing June's unemployment rate is the same as May's 8.2 percent.
The economy created 80,000 jobs, just enough to keep up with population growth.
Mitt Romney called it "unacceptable."
President Obama said "it's still hard out there."
Greater Cleveland's economy seems to be doing at least as well as the national numbers, perhaps a little better.
Greater Cleveland's unemployment rate of 6.7 percent for the latest available figures ranked 9th of 22 Metropolitan areas of more than 1.5 million people.
At Employment Connection, the Job-Linking service between workers and employers for Cleveland and Cuyahoga County, the national running-in-place trend is playing out.
Operations Manager Steve Newman says the organization is dealing with about the same number of companies cutting back or closing down as those that are expanding.
Newman says, "I think we're moving forward a little bit."