Your say: Ohio lawmakers want to ban lap dances
Ohio Senators passed a bill this week that says strip club dancers and patrons must be kept six feet apart.
The law would also force clubs and adult bookstores to close at midnight if they do not have a liquor license.
The law now goes to the Ohio House for a vote.
So what do you think of this law? Have Ohio lawmakers gone too far? Should such regulations be left up to individual communities?
The law would also force clubs and adult bookstores to close at midnight if they do not have a liquor license.
The law now goes to the Ohio House for a vote.
So what do you think of this law? Have Ohio lawmakers gone too far? Should such regulations be left up to individual communities?
posted by Dan at
10:37 AM
177 Comments:
Thats not right....Welcome to COMUNIST AMERICA! Pretty soon ALL of out rights will be taken away
I think it is ridiculous. I do not frequent strip clubs or adult stores but banning lap dances and closing adult stores at midnight does nothing to address the real problems we face. These actions are not going to stop people from abusing drugs, killing others or committing crimes. This is just another example of people trying to push their moral adgenda on others.
Do the Ohio lawmakers really have anything better to do?
If the state senators can't find something more important to talk about then maybe we should replace every last one of them and start fresh. Between this legislation and the legislation trying to dissolve local communities ability to negotiate contracts with cable providers the state has proven it cannot be trusted to keep it's nose out of local governments business.
Maybe we need a state wide referendum to re-write the state constitution and further limit their powers over local minicipalities in order to deflate their swelled heads.
Welcome to the People's Republic of Ohio
How is this an issue? Why are they wasting their time? How many police hours will be consumed enforcing this regulation?
The only thing making adult oriented businesses "magnets for crime" is the lack of community support for a legitimate industry.
I don't think they should be allowed to do lap dances at all. They dance on stage, isn't that good enough???
Once again the government is trying to save us from ourselves. The House and Senate should be concerned about the state of our educational system, or the fact that Ohio's population is shrinking as people flee the state in search of better economies and lower taxes. The 'lap dance' issue is a complete waste of time.
I say stop spending time & money on trying to controls the citizens social activities whatever it may be within the leagal relms that are already in place. Focus on taking steps to keep the citizens of Ohio safer against crime.
I think that they are trying to regulate morality. Let the men have their fun. Ban prostitution, sure, but come on, lap dances? I can understand the no touch rule but 6 feet away, does this inclue husband and wives too? This is ridiculous. Next they will be telling us men and women can not kiss in public.
That is outrageous, that is the best thing about a gentleman's club. This state might as well become an islamist state and require women to wear burkas over their heads!
What does the state do about all the violence on TV and in Movies? The bloodloving violent culture of this state and country is far worse than any sexually oriented activites. Touching and massage and dancing are all positive for people. The lawmakers only seem to want to encourage totalitarianism, punishement, and violence. Shame on them.
Scott Emick
Cleveland, Ohio
This is absolutely ridiculous. How can lawmakers tell citizens what they deem acceptable for entertainment? I have been to these establishments in the past, and they handle themselves like professionals. When does the government stop pushing the limits?
Why is this an issue that our lawmakers are involved in? Don't we have more serious issues to be concerned about? You have got to be kidding me. The lawmakers in Columbus are so ridiculous that I am elated my job is taking me out of state. Everyone wonders why our young people keep leaving. Open your eyes Columbus, and focus on issues that really matter to the people of this state.
Oh, my gosh! It this seriously the most pressing issue with the State of Ohio? Lap Dances?? In a state that contains one of the worst school systems; in a state that is suffering with unemployment and crime; a state whose largest county has more people leaving faster than every other county in the nation (except those affected by Hurricane Katrina), the most pressing bill passing through our congressional leaders is whether or not there needs to be 6 feet between a dancer and her patron?? No wonder this state is suffering. Why can't Columbus and the State of Ohio work more towards education, employment and safer communities than worry about lap dancing? Didn't this week at Virginia Tech open the eyes of anyone leading this damn State?? Get a clue down there in Columbus, or else the voters need to start cleaning house!
Frustrated in Cleveland
I think the Ohio law makers are going to far dictating what business owners can do and can't do. If you want to smoke and get a lap dance you sould be able to. As long as its legal and not harming inacent people then they need to quit. When Ohio starts to loose money then they will wake up.
I think the government should stay out of this. What adults want to do with their free time is up to them. If they want a lap dance let them have one. Sure I wouldn't want one, but I don't insist that every body else feel that way either. Why does everybody have to force their opinions and feelings on everybody else? People have a hard time minding their own business.
Just an indirect way to get strip clubs out of Ohio. Ridiculous.
That's one of the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard! I'm a woman who isn't a supporter of women who choose to strip for a living, but even I realize that this is crazy! What a waste of time, effort and tax payers dollars! I'd rather throw my money away at a strip club then on a bunch of lawmakers wasting time and efforts on something that is completely HARMLESS! Maybe they should worry themselves with something more important like figuring out how to keep drunk drivers off our roads!!
This is absolutely ridiculous. How far are people going to let the government reach into their lives before they realize that their constitutional rights are being abused/flat-out ignored?
What justification do they have other than some overly self-righteous bible-thumping quack whining about how they don't want "something like this" in their neighborhood?
It's called the right to free enterprise...not to mention the right that these people have to, you know, NOT GO THERE and leave the rest of the world to live their own lives
That's funny because all the male Ohio lawmakers like to get lap dances too!!
It's know wonder everyone is leaving this state.
Sadly, there appears to be no logic to this bill. It's simply some prudish official's way of controlling the lives of others. I do not frequent strip clubs, but why should I, or any government or voter, care what happens inside them? Let people that want to live that way do so....what happens inside those walls has no impact on me.
Sadly, this will pass because no politician will speak up against it, for fear of being labelled a pervert. Once again, government by fear of image-tarnishing will win.
I feel that it should be left up the comunity to make such a decision. Our problem in society is not due to lack of laws but due to the lack of respect for each other. Most people now days would rather dispise your mere presense than to look at you. Judges need to start enforcing the laws and not just slapping offenders on the hand to allow them to just turn arround and do it again. USA is in very sad shape these days...frown.
This is America, not the Vatican City. Let the people do what they want. I'm tired of watching our freedoms dwindle away. When will this stop??
So the lawmakers will be home to their wifes' after midnight. This will give the lawmakers a reason to stop coming home so late.
I thought this was the land of the FREE. First you ban smoking in bars and now you are trying this crap? Its pretty sad these YUPPIES are trying to dictate how we live our lives.
The only reason they want to make the law is because they don't make enough money in taxes from the dancers. I say we petition for a law that keeps politicians 100 feet from PAC's and campaign "contributors". What they need to concentrate on is making it so my children aren't going to have to pay 50 grand to get college education from a state college and find out when they are done they don't have a job because our Republican and Neo Conservative friends have made Ohio completely unliveable.
The dancers are there to make money. I think the government is afraid there making more tips than they are reporting. The patrons go there for the lap dances.
I think passing a bill to control gasoline prices, health care costs, and other problems that are affecting everyone in ohio would be more appropriate.
We chose to go to strip clubs, we don't chose to pay for gasoline or health care. Just because their salaries are substantial enough, and there benefits are great and these costs don't affect their everyday lives doesn't mean they don't affect ours.
Anymore, it sure doesn't feel like the land of the free. Our troops is fighting over in iraq for our freedom but we are not getting any. Next thing you know the lawmakers will be trying to intrude into our homes and telling us how we can or cannot arrange our furniture. There are more important issues that needs to be dealt with but the lawmakers rather push that aside for the petty stuff. How ignorant. With the way this country is going, I no longer feel proud to celebrate Independence day. To me, it's just like any other day.
Quite worring about stuff like this and do your jobs get jobs in ohio, straighten out the ecomomy and do something on the federal leval and get a plan to get us out of iraq
THIS IS CRAZY! 1st the smoking, now the rights of individuals to seek entertainment- next, it will be the liquor. When will the State put their agendas' in proper order? Or, is this just appeasing just a few minority? Go back to your books, rectify education, safer schools, & communities. This is so tedious..!!! I getting so frustrated with the politics here in Ohio & our Nation...
Good! I hope it passes, about time someone other than smokers take a hit!
This should not be regulated by the state at all.
Please write to your state representatives and lets stop this from becoming law!
I am glad to know that all the other problems facing Ohio have been sloved, such as school funding. Thank you Ohio Law makers for showing us what truely matters.
We can all thank that wonderfully regressive organization down there in southern Ohio ... Citizens for Community Values. They apparently feel none of us have the ability to make decisions about our own lives ourselves but require their help, so they pressure the Ohio Senate to vote on legislation WITHOUT a Senatorial sponsor!!!
While I personally do not perform, I have acquaintences who do. Most of these folks get paid squat from the establishments themselves; they depend on tip money. A 6' restraining order would effectively eliminate their ability to make money.
But, then again, I suppose that's what the folks down there at CCV are hoping ... the entertainers will stop entertaining, the audiences will stop coming, and they can get back to pushing baby strollers past white picket fences on a warm summer's eve.
I'm capable of making my own decisions, thank you very much. I don't need your help.
I guess our elected officals have nothing better to do. This law would only hurt the girls who are trying to make money to pay for college or to feed their family. Why do our elected officals want to hurt these ladies. There is nothing wrong with lap dances. This is not prostitution. This is harmless fun for the men and women. What is really hurting our society is the state run lottery system. Do you think we will ever see a bill passed banning the lottery. I think not. They just keep adding drawings and games but the money still doesn't end up funding the schools.
They are going too far. Next thing you know they will have a law for when you can eat and drink.
An example of a right: A right to a safe workplace
An example of privilege: being entertained by faceless women for sexual pleasure.
Your desire for a privilege DOES NOT trump a woman's right to a safe workplace... or at least the safest possible.
Quit your whining underlings, remember, men aren't the only people on the planet, women are supposed to have rights too. Your desire to have all privileges you want should never trump a basic Human right. Now, on your way out, go find yourselves a few grammar and spelling books, you all need them desperately.
my minum wage is 2.70 I"ll give it to who I want and my armes are not 6 foot long if thease places have to close at midnight why not all stores thanks you commy law makers when you going to start a curfue for everyone and hay whers my minum wage whats it for if not to live bring up people born disabled to minum wage you guys alredy want to stop my girlfirend and me from getting married youll take away our disabilty and cut it in half why not take away all my rites and we can have a goverment overthrowing party all us free people can go to jaile then these lawmakers can suport us
Just what our state needs, another reason for conventions to pick other locations !
I totally agree with the senators. I think strip clubs should be illegal to begin with.
These establishments don’t just employ entertainers, they employ managers, servers, dj’s, bartenders, and cooks. So does it make sense to force all of these people out of jobs when other companies are picking up and moving out of Ohio on their own? I understand that a lot of people do not care for the “adult” industry, but if you don’t like it then don’t go to these places. It’s that simple. I can’t stand sushi but you don’t see me trying to ban sushi restaurants throughout the state of Ohio, do you? It’s just another way for the conservative, upper-crusty crowd to try and control what everyone else does. It’s no longer “land of the free”, it’s become a very blame your neighbor, sue everyone, ban everything that just might offend someone country. I work part-time in an adult club and I do not fear any huge incident of crime or feel unsafe at any time. I do however, fear for my future and the future children of America if laws like these continue to pass. I do not want anyone to dictate what I can and can’t do or where I can and cannot go. Independence Day should be re-named “get a free day off work” day. Independence and freedom are becoming a thing of the past.
Taxes are the third highest in the country, jobs/educated people are leaving the state in record numbers. Housing foreclosures are one of the worst. How are we going to fix this? I know lets ban lap dances. Wow, after all of this work the lawmakers should vote themselves a raise. Ohio, "the joke of it all".
I think it would be better if they banned strip clubs altogether. It might lower the rate of STDs in Ohio.
I am always wondering why the rights they take away are the ones a lot of people enjoy. They tax smoking (very high), then ban smoking in businesses, then they don't pass a law that would bring a casino into our area, then they get rid of lap dances. Lap dances aren't the root of all evil, the crime will not be effected bacause of this ban. Why close a strip club early and leave the bars open. This state has some stupid laws that are singling out people.
This is a waste of time and money. America is preoccupied with sex and legislating against and censoring it.
These laws do nothing. After all the politicians who were found to be engaging in the very things they tried to legislate, I find this offensive.
Stop passing new useless laws and start educating about and enforcing laws that deal with violence.
I don't see how having a naked woman dance for you in close proximity is such a problem. There are laws to protect the dancers from abusive customers, as in any business, and those laws should be enforced. If there were no demand for this kind of entertainment it would go away. Do our legislators believe that only degenerates go to strip clubs? That is a pretty dim view of the men of Ohio. Are the women so weak and stupid that they can't spot a problem customer? What a dim view of the women of Ohio.
Many of the dancers use the money they make to work their way through school or support families. What will happen to the others who work in the club if business slows? Whether the legislators agree or not, this is a business and it is legal. Legislating morality in this country has never worked.
Do we want to become like the Taliban and have a Department of Morality? I sure hope not. Whose morality will make the cut?
Where is the logic in the idea that a man can be trusted to own a gun, but not to view or be close to a naked woman? Ridiculous!
A club is private property that is open to the public. If lap dances are problematic for the public then they need not enter the club. The club is designed to meet the needs of its patrons, each of whom have the choice of entering the club or going somewhere else. It is wrong to take away that decision from any patron.
This is absolutely the right thing to do. The only thing hanging out in strip clubs is the worst our society has to offer. From the sexy little scantily clad big chested sweet toed woman providing us awesome entertainment to the pig men going to visit them. At least I know that I will be forced to stop eating red meat and fried chicken and they will probably ban me from breathing the air in cuyahoga county as it is polluted ... yikes... My name is Scott V and I approve this message
It is no wonder the state is in such a mess. The state is too busy worrying about the distance between a stripper and a patron to tackle deficits, dwindling population, lack of jobs, horrible schools or violence.
I bet 5% of the population is concerned about strip clubs. Oops, sorry about that. As you know, gambling is not allowed in this state either.
How about working on the economy and the schools. If they going to ban lap dancing at strip club, what's the point of going?
Another good reason for me to move out of state. Ohio is sooo far behind the times its not even funny! Goverment needs to stay out of peoples buisness,The FCC and the religous right are single handedly ruining this great country!
Chris Fryfogle
This is absolutely ridiculous! I thought this was America! Those sanctimonious hypocrites in Columbus need to spend their time fixing the school system instead of something this stupid! Stop wasting taxpayers money on dumb stuff like this. Hey, how about getting and keeping drunk drivers off the road? Thats something they could be doing! I'm so tired of Big Brother trying to dictate to me. Stay the heck out of my private and social life. I don't choose to go to those places but they have no right to dictate to those that do.
ohio needs to quit making all these stupid laws, that should be the least of their worries, we are one of the top taxed states out of all of them. from no smoking to this,to taxing cigarettes and alcohal over and over, again, when are we going to stand up for ourselves and stop letting them run our lives. what happened to america the free
Check out all the responses... mostly from HORNY MALE PATRONS! LOL! That said, I think it's ridiculous to ban lap dances. It is really a 'non-issue'. There are SO MANY MORE IMPORTANT THINGS TO WORRY ABOUT AND LEGISLATE than whether some horny adult should be able to get a little pleasure! Our schools and roads are falling apart, there are too many handguns circulating with gun laws that are lax, our jobs are being 'offshored' in record numbers to places like China, India, and The Philippines, and a few MORONS decide to make this an issue?!?! This is 'smokescreen politics' at it's best folks. I have nothing against our government working for us, but let's tackle the REAL ISSUES AND CHALLENGES FACING US AS A NATION for chrissakes!!!
Who Cares!
More restrictions on individual freedoms is NOT what we need. These puritans will stop at nothing to extinguish any fun that a person has. Get on the web, look up your congressman's address, phone and email and tell 'em how you feel!!!!
Oh Yes,Just what we need,Yet another stupid law,How about taking care of some of the Issues that are important to most of us, Like health care,Education,And the lost jobs we have suffered in this state. How many rights will we lose before we all finally stand up and say,Enough is enough....
We need to stop lap dancing so people will have money for the taxes raises.
Id take it a step further...ban the clubs altogether....all they are are magnets for scum...crime, drugs, etc etc...speaking from experience as a law enforcement officer who has to deal with the undesireables who tend to hang out there...if one of these places would go up anywhere near your home, expect your home's value to go down by 20% easily...
this is crazy. i am moving out of this state. why stay here with one of the highest income tax rates, HIGH property tax rates, lack of good jobs and now you cant smoke (you can pay outragious taxes for cigarettes but you are forced to go outside and freeze in ohio's horrible climate 9 motnths out of the year) I LOVE strip clubs, now their taking that away too, what about all the jobs that will be lost from this. this will literally force them all out of business. there are so many better places to live than ohio, this is my breaking point, I am so sick of this state. why not let people live their lives without forcing their beliefs on them, what do they care as long as no one is causing harm to someone else. why not address more important issues like health care or the rapidly increasing unemployment rate. No wonder Ohio's population is decreasing at an alarming rate. There is no opportunity here and now you can't have any fun. Pretty soon Ohio will be worse than the town in footloose. If I was fresh out of school I would move the ---- out of here as soon as possible. California, here I come - time to start living a better life.
-Vince Mancini
this is crazy. i am moving out of this state. why stay here with one of the highest income tax rates, HIGH property tax rates, lack of good jobs and now you cant smoke (you can pay outragious taxes for cigarettes but you are forced to go outside and freeze in ohio's horrible climate 9 motnths out of the year) I LOVE strip clubs, now their taking that away too, what about all the jobs that will be lost from this. this will literally force them all out of business. there are so many better places to live than ohio, this is my breaking point, I am so sick of this state. why not let people live their lives without forcing their beliefs on them, what do they care as long as no one is causing harm to someone else. why not address more important issues like health care or the rapidly increasing unemployment rate. No wonder Ohio's population is decreasing at an alarming rate. There is no opportunity here and now you can't have any fun. Pretty soon Ohio will be worse than the town in footloose. If I was fresh out of school I would move the ---- out of here as soon as possible. California, here I come - time to start living a better life.
-Vince Mancini
Why not just shut down these clubs.They are full of nasty degenerates.
If th Law Makers don't want to go to Strip Clubs, etc., then by all means we shouldn't force them to do so. However, they should refrain from interfering with every little aspect of daily life. It's not what they were elected to do. How about addressing the issue of School Funding instead. Now there's an issue that really deserves attention. Maybe they could legislate a Tax on Lap Dances. That would generate some additional revenue, and give them the personal satisfaction of striking a blow against SIN!!
PA-LEASE!!! If this is the most important issue our state lawmakers have to tackle, then I want the job! If only they could be so productive on the school funding issue and increasing employment opportunities. For the most part, these establishments hurt noone; pay taxes; employ people nor cause any more trouble than regular bars. They're just another easy target of minority interests who think they know best for the majority. Laws like this are what cause every day citizns to lose faith in their government and representatives. Let's get serious about some real issues!
With Ohio schools struggling and companies leaving the Buckeye State, I am surprised that the Ohio Senate actually found time to deal with lap dances in strip clubs. This is something that should be handled by the various localities, not the state government in Columbus. That would free up some valuable time in the legislature so they can handle real serious issues, like education.
Hey everyone remeber who still controls the house and senate in ohio the republicans ..... they been taking rights away for years.. vote right vote democrat and you wouldnt have this problem!
Clearly, those who have already posted have shown their displeasure with their legislators' intrusions into our civil rights and I agree--but please contact the Senators and Representatives DIRECTLY!
Just utterly amazing that our state government has nothing better to legislate. Apparently the only set of operpaid boobs are not in the strip clubs but rather in the state buildings in Columbus.
Our
elected representatives have forgotten that they are elected to represent the will of the majority and are Public Servants, not our Rulers. They make laws to control us, not govern us, based upon their personal preference and private agenda. Slowly but surely, these "Rulers" are nibbling away at our rights as private citizens and relegating people to the status of servants and slaves. It's almost as if we, the people, are their property to do with as they wish and take from us what they want.
Their abuse of the legal system is disappointing and frightening. Will my children live their lives in a police state?
I think our ohio lawmakers should find better issues to worry about. i do not go to strip club often, but if i do, i want to see them closer than 6 feet away. what was the ohio law makers smoking when they voted for this. let's give a drug test. or check their bank account to see if they were in fluence by a pay off before they voted. from anonymous in cleveland
I think our ohio lawmakers should find better issues to worry about. i do not go to strip club often, but if i do, i want to see them closer than 6 feet away. what was the ohio law makers smoking when they voted for this. let's give a drug test. or check their bank account to see if they were in fluence by a pay off before they voted. from anonymous in cleveland
Good thing Ohio has figured out how to constitutionally fund our public education, increased job's, decreased the number on welfare and fixed all the problems with our transportation department. Since all those problems are fixed I guess pushing moral agenda and imposing beliefs on the people of the state is the best thing to do. Way to go! I am pretty sure that the Bill of Rights i.e. freedom of speech, assembly and so forth no longer imply...
I think our ohio lawmakers should find better issues to worry about. i do not go to strip club often, but if i do, i want to see them closer than 6 feet away. what was the ohio law makers smoking when they voted for this. let's give a drug test. or check their bank account to see if they were in fluence by a pay off before they voted. from anonymous in cleveland
I think our ohio lawmakers should find better issues to worry about. i do not go to strip club often, but if i do, i want to see them closer than 6 feet away. what was the ohio law makers smoking when they voted for this. let's give a drug test. or check their bank account to see if they were in fluence by a pay off before they voted. from anonymous in cleveland
I think it is a good idea. Things have gotten so bad over the last 30 years that almost anything to reverse, or at least retard, the the further coursening of our culture is a good thing in my opinion. In the long haul, behaviors such as lap dancing do not exist in a vaccuum, and together they all contribute to damaging our sensibilities and to lowering our respect toward one another. It's hard to see the impact if you consider only one behavior, but collectively, these things pack a whallop. Yes to the ban.
well what is the purpose of the so called LAP DANCE ? what does it do for the guy having some broad sit on his lap and shake her booty,besides giving her a fue bucks for the service.GETTING AROUSED.what a cheap thrill.to bad you cant get aroused normally without porno flicks or the so called LAP DANCE.WHAT A GREAT SOCIETY.ONLY IN AMERICA.
This is plain stupid. Adults don't need the cops to tells them how to relate to each other. Fix something thats broken - education. Lap dances don't hurt anyone.
Another right taken away. These lawmakers work for us. We are their employers. Let's threaten them with their jobs. Let's fire them all. Here is the Senator's name and address who finalized this stupid bill. Give him a call or email and let him know how you feel. Let's become pebbles in their shoes.
Ron Amstutz
Address:
Senate Building
Room #140, First Floor
Columbus, Ohio 43215
Telephone: 614/466-7505
Email: SD22@mailr.sen.state.oh.us
This is a terrible law, many young women need good paying income which lap dances provide. It is a voluntary small wealth thansfer from the generally more well-off to the generally less well-off.
How can the northern part of the state secede from the totalitarian bible wavers in soutern Ohio?
SO YOU DONT LIKE THE COMMENT,WHY DO ASK FOR COMMENTS IF THEY HAVE TO BE SENSORED BECAUSE YOU DONT AGREE WITH SOMEONE ELSES OPINION ?
This is dumb. At six feet apart you can't even put your money in her garter or his if its a male strip club for the ladies! Most of them don't get paid by the owner, tips are their income.
This is completely rediculous. It coincides with the Port Bills last attachment of the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act (UIGEA) which says that US citizens can not fund online poker websites, but allows online horse and lottery wagers.
So, I'm glad that our governing bodies don't give a damn about what the PEOPLE WHO ELECTED THEM want, but instead are hiding behind the same 'blanket of morality' excuse over and over.
Here's a free lesson for our Nation...
THE MORE YOU LIMIT FREEDOMS, THE MORE PEOPLE **WILL** WANT IT MORE.
Bad law. That will drive people to after hours joints which are springing up to accomodate the smokers and under age but adult looking drinkers.
i think it's a great idea
signed,
islamic jihadist
Ok...enough with what they call the moral majority. Why do they think they can push their beliefs on everyone. The Legislature should focus on the REAL PROBLEMS facing the state....Like school funding that has been ruled unconstitutional...and the jobs that are leaving this state in droves. They always pick something that is easy to do to show they are doing something in Columbus. Why don't they get down to hard business of school funding and lost jobs. We should throw out EVERY LOUSY POLITICIAN and get new blood that will actually DO SOMETHING CONSTRUCTIVE.
I say it's about time!! I'm sick of the lowest of the low in our society dictating what is OK morally. Why do we want to contribute to addiction and exploitation of women? Men have no shame anymore; it is disgusting.
This is the worst thing ever that Ohio lawmakers can stop. How about worrying over school saftey and other hot topics that affect us day to day instead of worrying about girls or guys getting lap dances?? For all of us who are singal it is nice to get some action once in a while!!!
In their spare time they passed this? I usually keep up with the current news and all, but I must have missed the bills they passed recently fixing our embarrassing public school funding (or lack of), our out of this world state college costs (pretty sad that it's cheaper to go to out of state schools and pay the out of state prices), all the new money to fix the roads and bridges that are falling apart, or cleaned up the scandal filled state house full of dead wood employees floating around!
I guess I wasn't paying attention.
Oops, my bad!
I think this law is just another way for the lawmakers in Ohio to keep running this state like it 1950. I am a entertainer and I can say right now, there is no way that they can enforce this, especially after all those police lay-off's. And for all of you out there who think this is a good idea, im willing to bet 10 to 1 that you're all women who never see your husbands because there are the strip club...get over it. You don't like the strip clubs, dont come in.
This is ridiculous!!! It's the "HOLY ROLLERS" touting their religion onto all of Ohio. Don't go to these clubs if it's not your thing. I see welfare costs going up by closing up the dance bars. "LIVE AND LET LIVE"
This just goes to show what our lawmakers are doing with their time in Columbus...instead of spending the time to fix the major problems with the public school systems - like providing updated textbooks, school supplies, heated classrooms and making other major repairs...they spend the time and our money on something like this! We need to find out the lawmakers who voted on this bill to pass and remember that when it is time for the next election...we need lawmakers who will spend their time and our tax dollar on far more critical issues that this.
As a woman - and wife - who opposes strip clubs in general - I have to say that this is a bit ridiculous. If men want to degrade themselves - and the woman involved - then it's their own business. The big hand of the law should have nothing to do with it.
A politician must have walked into an strip club with really fugly dancers if this is on the table. If you don't want a lap dance, then don't go in there - plain and simple. It's not like the girls are out there and giving these lap dances in public. I personally wouldn't go in one, but my husband has and it doesn't bug me one bit.
The politicians need something better to do. Seriously.
Time for lawmakers to get a life, instead they have to take ours...wheres the forms to fill out i have to go to the bathroom...
I am starting to wonder if NIN's new CD/ARG, the movie Equilibrium, and every police state book is coming true. Forget this useless fluff, I want to see things that will better this state. Not political policing. The issue here is that crazy Republican Christians can't do what they want to do sexually, so they limit the free people.
Long live King Bush and his Merry Men!
Thank you, State Legislators, for "standing up" for what is morally correct!! We support you;----100o/o!!
well at least we know their priorities - education and unemployment be damned lap dancing must be dealt with - aren't they a little big to be in our laps - get real...
Don't our legislators have more important things to do, like fix school funding?
I'm tired of paying high property taxes so the other 550 school districts in this state can avoid being taxed.
It's time our legislators make every property owner in Ohio pay an equal amount!!!! Then our school funding problems are solved!
Finally, a glimmer of hope that society might have some values, morals, & ethics. Obviously the patrons that visit these establishments aren't able to make responsible choices and need guidance (regulation) to steer them away from being bad role models, father figures, husbands, etc. Hopefully more fathers will be at home reading stories to their kids at night or on their knees praying for guideance rather than in strip clubs. ((By the way, I've NEVER heard of, known or met a female who works in one of these establishments that has NOT been sexually abused or violated in her past. Maybe if men would realize the pain & torment of these tortured souls they wouldn't be paying them to continue to sell their bodies for feelings of approval or self-esteem. Think I'm being far-fetched? Gentlemen, just ask your next lady friend & see if I'm right. Be prepared to feel like a exploitative, manipulative, sexist pig after hearing their stories.))
What a waste of taxpayers dollars. Instead of stopping our good jobs from leaving the state, they are worried about lap dances. The taxpayers of Ohio want good jobs and not the crappy low paying ones that have been brought in over the last few years. Bring in some quality companies. Forget about the social agenda legislation.
maybe lap dances should be illegal.. it might save relationships!
w/o lap dances!!!!!!!!!
what else can/does a guy go (there!) for?????????
Get government out of the bedroom. It is time we stop trying to legislate morals.
This is just another example of how special interest groups have ruined this country. There is absolutely no direct correlation between crime and strip clubs. What's next? The people of this country need to band together and fight against these special interest groups once and for all.
Whoever said get the government out of the bedroom... they are not in the bedroom. They are trying to get the smut under control.
To that I say hurray.
We can't gamble in Ohio to raise money... but we have these men throwing their families hard earned money at indecency.
I rather them throw the money at the Casino. Atleast then a portion of the money will go to the schools.
Trust me... I know men. They will find another way to fulfill their desires. Hopefully they will turn to their wives.
~KS
So the schools have no money, what will our uneducated Ohio kids do for jobs now? Just another example of religious special interest pushing their morals on all of society. The sad part is that this law will more than likely increase prostitution, drugs, and crime. Not able to earn money dancing after midnight, many of these dancers will turn to the next best option...taking someone home, where crime and drugs can proliferate. Gay Marriage, Smoking, Strip Clubs, ongoing Ohio restrictions...you watch alcohol will come next!
First of all, when you read about this in the newspaper and hear about this on tv, they don`t tell you about those who don`t have a liquer license are the ones who have to close at midnight. I think it`s a good idea because this kind of behavior is leading some of our men to furthur go out and commit a sex crime. Also some married men that goes to these places and committing adultery by just starring at these girls.
GRAND SLAM - HOME RUN - SMACK IT OUT OF THE PARK. I was asked, while attending UT lawschool, if I wanted to go to a strip club and get a lap dance. I'm a respectable, heterosexual female -- Park those sexual trafickers in a locked lot -on a sinkable island. I'm all for staopping sexual traficking. Some of those women don't want to "dance" for their food, they are being forced/coerced into it by dirty nasty lawyers, judges, and law students. Not a joke - not funny - not obnoxious- when force and coercion involved.
These politicians (lawmakers) need to be educated in what the Constitution says before they make up these stupid laws. The very freedoms that are America are being demolished by people who probably honestly believe it is there job to wake up and make up a new law. STOP IT! No more new laws. We have enough ignorant ones already.
What about what it will do the econonmy those girls spend the money they make in the communities they live in, And trust me it is Good money. What about how high our taxes are, is that not an issue? Our schools have no money, but we are worried about what time ADULT entertainment ends, and how close a lap dance is? Come on!!!! If you don't like it don't go!!! It is for adults and adults only, hell what else is next they will come into our bedrooms and tell us what we can and can't do there too?
Gina Woody Huron, Oh
I want the name of EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE MORONS WHO VOTE FOR THIS BILL. I'm so sick of people trying to legislate sexual morals when they themselves have NONE!!!! People in strip clubs don't break laws and defraud the people. Politicians DO!!! If they want to make a more moral society, how bout guaranteeing health care coverage, child day care or schools that don't teach from 20 year old textbooks and hold classes in broom closets!!??!!! For god sake, EVOLVE ALREADY!!!
Get rid of the clubs, they're full of Nasty women and even more nastier men who can't see a naked woman outside of a club and are desperate.
Thank you Ohio Lawmakers. I'm glad you are looking out for descent behavior. If the people hanging around strip clubs would take a little of the money they throw away on dancers and give it to the school, the legislators wouldn't need to worry about school funding.
It is wrong for these clubs to be allowed because they are selling sexual "activity " for money. There is crime in those areas.Lots of drugs and alcohol. Men cheat on wives and girl friends because it is addictive.Money is the root of it. The money goes to the girls who degrade themselves so they do more and more immoral things for it. They actually get implants to get more money and the club owners do not pay them so they degrade themselves for money.It is like a slavery. They need to stay "on" the stage for entertainment.and get paid a decent wage...otherwise it is sexual activity for money. A known sexual offender started out going to one of these places.It is a bad example to young men and young women. If people want to do that let them hire a private dancer in their home.Even women have become desensitized to this abhorant activity.The entertainment should be suited to couples not to men's lower instincts...it is sexual "activity" for pay.How degrading.
Here is exactly what I said to Cleveland Scene on June 15, 2005 regarding this subject:
The American Way
Strippers, our first line of defense:
While I wouldn't want my husband to frequent gentlemen's clubs on a daily basis, an occasional visit for a drink with buddies or a quick lap dance or two doesn't faze me in the least ["Save Our Strippers!" June 15].
I do not dance, nor would I want to. It's a difficult job, with a huge lack of respect from the clients and the outside world. It may not be the normal dream job, and neighbors may not like the fact that these establishments exist, but we should be free to make choices.
It is said we have freedom, yet there is so much censorship in the entertainment business. When a little flesh is shown, it causes widespread panic! I believe we need to save our strippers and clubs, not because we do or do not like them, but because this is America. If we do not stand up for people who have different beliefs or morals, then what will happen when they decide to limit something that is normal and accepted?
We cannot just stand up for what we as individuals think should be right; we also must stand up for what everyone should have a right to practice or view.
I would currently add (4/26/07): With all this micro-managing of our rights, our country will soon no longer be democratic, but communist. Having our government, law makers, and politicians take sides on simple rights is getting out-of-hand. If we worked more on diversifying our neighborhoods, getting communities together, and taking care of our children and schools, this would ultimately create a better world little-by-little.
We don't need "moral police" telling us how to live our lives. Tell them to live their own the way they choose. Oh, but wait, if we keep going in this direction, we won't have any choices. Hmmm. What about that?
I think it is more about the insecurities and controlling behavior of the people who started this bill or petition to begin with.
I am not one of those controlling wives, watching every move my husband makes. I can't and won't waste my time wondering, if he's going to do something "wrong" to make me call it quits. If something happens, we'll cross that bridge and burn it when we get there. If we focus on ourselves, and making ourselves happy, we will shine our happiness on the people around us, and they won't be able to resist wanting to be with us.
Please stop wasting tax payer dollars to morally police our country. Use them to help our veterans live more fruitful lives after risking and giving their lives for our country. Use them to support our elderly, who can barely get by, who spent their lives working, raising children, paying taxes, and giving back to our communities and government. Help our children, who can't read, write, or pass a simple test get the books, materials, and assistance needed to be educated enough to go to college, get a degree, and become a valuable part of our society. Other countries are passing our children up in intelligence. While we waste our tax dollars on trivial issues such as this, schools are bankrupt, being torn down, and unable to educate our children. Reform the welfare system. Help the people on welfare and public assistance become able to support themselves by giving them skills, education, and opportunities. Don't take care of them, making them dependent on our system to survive. Give them the tools to be independent and break the cycle of "generational" welfare. We keep them needing us, so we feel needed. That's ridiculous.
DO SOMETHING ABOUT THOSE THINGS!
Danielle Fortseras
anonymous ....... i used to be an entainer i think this is crazy i can c the dirty clubs that have women sell there self 4 money those are the clubs that need shut down there r nice clubs that do not allow u 2 have any contact what so ever the gov needs 2 worry about taking the poor off the streets and fund public education better than what they are ....
Great idea! Close the adult stores at midnight. That way, all the perverts people claim are out there can just go rape people instead of getting some magazines. The religious right has really gone too far.
As for lap dances, the only people against lap dancing are women who refuse to take care of their husbands at home and don't want them going elsewhere for it. Maybe if you ladies would spend half as much time paying your husband a bit of attention as you do whining to get stupid crap like this on the ballot, there wouldn't be a need to worry, hmm? I don't worry about MY husband getting lap dances.
This is fine with me. Don't men have anything better to do than go to strip clubs? Let them go home to their wives. Get a real life!
the religious right is taking away all our freedoms. Like the above said, welcome to the People's republic Of Ohio. I am so sick of conservative lawmakers policing our freedoms. The only people who have problems with this are the women who don't take care of their husbands at home. Maybe if you did, your husbands wouldn't even have to go to places like that.
I can't believe with all the problems in this state that our legislature has nothing better to do. What about funding for schools? What about the cost of higher education? What about all the jobs being lost in the state? No one drags anyone into any club, store etc. How much do they want to micro-manage our life? They should all be voted out, get some people in that are interested in investing in our children and helping the state to grow and prosper.
Thank you Jean Helsel
another reason to leave ohio. no gambling, and now no lapdances. how backwards can you go. and then kucinich wants to impeach the vice president. this state is such a joke. its just unreal. unreal!!
As an adult; which is by definition one whom: adjective
Having reached full growth and development
Should I not have a right to such entertainment; or for that matter to choose to provide such entertainment?
If it is "sleazy, scum" they are after; why not focus on clearing the streets of diseased hookers, or diposing of their own corrupt commune of indivduals?
Something has a feculant odor, and it's not coming from the dancer...
BATTER -UP ----BASES LOADED -----To the Gina Woody and Mowab comments- I don't want to know what other people do in their bedrooms; and I doubt most lawmakers want to know what other people consentially do in their own bedroom. If you want protection, don't talk about it, don't tape it for show, don't try to force people who don't want to participate into it, and noone will know. However, I do care what other people's husband's, boyfriends, wives, and girlfriends do to unwilling and unwitting citizens. Especially, when it relates to sexual trafficking, hybred forms of prostitution, and sexual assault. That is the point. Because some goooooo waaaaay tooo far, to make a buck, get their sexual jollies; and try to literally FORCE other people to participate, legislatures have resorted to passing "moral" compass laws. Apparently one's level of education, and opportunity for education, is no indicator that he/she possesses the requisite skills and/or common sense to appropriately apply his/her knowledge. WHEN THERE ARE DOCTORATE LEVEL STUDENTS, with seven years of education, who by their actions, apparently can't even understand what the word NO means, or how to interpret basic sexual assault laws, sexual harassment laws, rape shield laws, 14th amendment issues, 13th amendment issues, Title VII laws, we have a major problem. The bottom line is, if certain people in the population want a constitutional right to go to a strip club, and/or be employed in that industry, then they must demand equality in enforcement and allow people who want the constitutional right to NOT go to a strip club, NOT be sexually assualted, NOT be trafficked, NOT be sexually promiscuous, NOT be sexually harassed, ect. equal constitutional footing; by demanding that their wishes are honored, protected, and respected. REALITY CHECK - THEY AREN'T
As far as Im concerned, they can close the strip clubs altogether... but lap dancing goes WAY beyond just dancing naked! The U.S. has an unusually HIGH rate of sexually driven crimes ALREADY ... and this is just FEEDING the fire? It harms relationships, and demeans women to nothing more than an object. Cheez!...Isnt there ENOUGH porn on cable TV anyways?
Great Idea!!! ALL of us should contact CITIZENS FOR COMMUNITY VALUES and vote to BAN lapdancing, once and for all!!
Its time men should learn to have REAL relationships, and not "pretend" ones that they just pay for!
Hey bible thumpers stay out of ohioians lives and stick to your own.You fought to get the smoking ban, you fought to get the alchol limit lowered, now you want to take away a descrete gentlemans pleasure also? What's the matter are your husbands going there to much? There are far more important things going on in ohio that should take presidence than this. Such as people leaving the state for jobs, college grads leaving for jobs, the highest unemployment in the country! Maybe if you all had jobs you wouldn't have time to try and run everybody else's lives.Me personally i work 6 days a week to survive. Try doing something about that.If you don't want to see strippers then don't go!
The lack of parenting, the streets overrun with arrogant teen agers, the usage of drugs, the abusive language, the risk of abuse by youngsters on elderly, the predatory performances of so many youth with "nothin to do", the total disrespect for property and persons. What is wrong with people. Strip clubs are for those who want at least fantasy sex. Zeave it alone, go after all our troubled youth. Go after and stop all the stupid single parent breeders.
Why don't they pass a law that keeps the Ohio lawmakers from wasting taxpayers time and money.. Between banning lap dances and the smoking ban they are trying to make Ohio's businesses and economy suffer.
This is what happens when the over-religious freaks in our society start having say in our government regardless if they are funding the politician or is the politician themselves. Politics and the Church should be afraid to seen with each other. Nothing good comes of the two sleeping together. I have only been to a strip club once. There was some rules in place that protected the dancers and the customers. Neither one could touch each other. Lap dances were the same way. You can get very close without touching. If the establishment is meeting all other ordinances and is considered a safe place to frequent by the clients and ownership, then what is the big issue? Our lawmakers need work on gun safety, drug enforcement, and other more violent and damaging crimes. I demand my tax money back if this what is going to be done with it. Let's not even start with the book store nonsense. Wake up Ohio!
Please give me a break. There tearing down schools that they just put over $700,000 into, 14-18 year old kids on the streets that have guns and killing each other, There thinking of getting rid of a Cleveland police district, no casino's, no new revenue is coming in, no smoking in public places but how was Jacob field and Gund (the Q) arena get there money to build, No Lap Dances, Next thing you know The Government will Band the NFL and the NBA for there Drill teams and Cheerleaders because Politicians will be distracted from the game. SEE YEA. HELLOOOOO Canada.
I now carry in my wallet the article in the PD that showed who in the senate voted for this bill and I'll also carry the article on who in the house voted for it. When I vote, I'll make sure who NOT to vote for. That's about the only thing we can do to get their attention.
This new law is horrible!!!
Strip clubs should have a right to
exist. Another freedom is being taken away. Ohio is becoming more
like Iran!
Ok, I know I am too late and that the law already passed. This is all about choices and harmless activities. You have the choice to patronize these establishments. I don't see police officers knocking on your door and forcefully taking you to a strip club. You have the choice to go or not to go. Just as the ladies have the choice to work there or not to work there, or who they dance for or not dance for. Who they allow to touch them and who they don't. I understand that prostitution is illegal in Ohio, and understand the concerns. Passing these laws didn't prevent prostitution from happening. Legal brothels (like those in Nevada)actually help to prevent the spread of STD's (as was another's concern)as the employees are required to be tested and so are the patrons. You wouldn't want your money makers to die off would you? I assume they are also required to use protection. What makes you think the clubs won't look the other way when they are making more money than the other clubs. Who is going to enforce this law the measuring tape police? As for the stereotyping and profiling I have seen in many of the previous posts? Does anyone listen to the free police scanner on Cleveland.Com? Where are all the problems at Adult Clubs? Most of the problems are at the other clubs. Why is that? Where are all the police reports? I really don't see a problem. If you don't like it DONT GO THERE. All you are doing is giving these establishments free advertising by whining about them.
Once again the Pat Robertsons, the Jerry Fallwells, and the James Dobsons of the world are using God and religion to mess with our rights and privacies-Just say no to the religious right!
We should give these lawmakers some time off to deal with these important issues first hand by NOT re-electing them!
They should be trying to make jobs not take jobs away, What happen to change for our country
Anonymous said... we are now told not to smoke outside! so i say stop the lap dancers... their gross. im sorry but you should stop that inall...... find a job that you could feel better about yourself. and work like the rest of "US" tax payers. i like clubs needed to go years ago. morals are long gone!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Who died and made our government, of ALL people, the moral police??? I am sure they have frequent flyer miles at the strip clubs themselves. Tired of being told what we can and cannot do.
ARE YOU KIDDING ME! Another victory for the "moral minority. We keep legislating morality and ignore the REAL problems. Iguess this would include the private parties the PAC's throw for these same legislators?
Gimme a break!!!
They are forced to close at midnight if they do NOT have a liquor license?? If you have a liquor license you can stay open past midnight and the law does not apply??? Ohio Lawmakers have way too much time on their hands.
This is getting way out of hand. Half the people in this country do not understand freedom anymore because it is continually getting taken away from us. Who cares if someone wants to go to a strip club and enjoy themselves. I'm sure more than 50% of our countries politicians have been to one in the past couple years but now they feel no one should get to enjoy them. Its already bad enough Ohio has some of the most strict laws when it comes to strip clubs. Go home politicians and worry about something that actually will make a difference in our state. Who knows mabe we can get those Noe coins back and use them to tip the dancers.
some more right being taken away and we sit by and let it happen I really think they should have better things to do smoking is gone lap dance what next when we have to go to bed
I think it's ridiculous, adults don't have enough freedom as it is,Why donsen't the people in ofice do something about ( drug users ) and people doing crimes on other people,thats what they was voted in office for, most are to old for sex so they want to force there problem on everyone else, I have never been to a strip club but if I had a chance I'd go, It sounds AWESOME to me, who knows it just spice up our sex life,But I can't afford the Gas for my car so I'll not be doing that I'm from the NewPhiladelphia Ohio area, they have a club there, it doesn't bother me
The CCV and anyone who supports garbage like this, is the enemy of every freedom loving person in this country. They want to create a theocracy based on their narrow minded outdated religious beliefs. To hell with them and their so called morals.
I can think for myself. I need no part of their attitude.
Absolutely ridiculous!!! There are sooooo many other issues in this Welfare and No Employment State that they need to worry about and concentrate on besides lap dances and adult book stores!! Is this really what our TAX money goes to? Maybe we should look at different ways of voting in our 'Lawmakers' if this is what we get for our time?
JUST ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS!!!
Why is it always the people who weren't going to do the thing in the first place the ones who want it banished? Angain the same argument rings true, if you don't want a lap dance, don't get one, but for God's sake don't mess with my ability to get one.
If our state legislature believes that this is the biggest fish that thet have to fry, then they should all be replaced. How difficult is it for them to understand that they have much more important issues to attend to, than this one! Absurd, just plain absurd!!!
Ridiculous!! Just what the state needs, more unemployment. It might not be the most classiest job, but hey, it's a job. Why put these people out of work?
To those of you who scream about womens rights, well, get a clue, they choose to do this for their living. For whatever their reason, they choose to do it. Leave them alone and let them earn a living. Just because it's not your profession of choice, doesn't give you the right to judge them or look down on them. I'm a woman and dancing would not be something I would want to do with my life, but who am I to judge them?
Ohio lawmakers need to worry about more important issues and let this one go.
This is stupid, we live in a free country, if they keep passing laws pretty soon we will be like communist countries, our troops are fighting for people to be free.
Is there not more important things to worry about? This is why I don't vote...Osama should come live in Ohio, he'd feel right at home!
if you keep telling people what they can an can't do,there going to rise up against you,close the bars down early,ha,ha,more angry people more unemployed,more people on walfare,more people hungry,more people homeless,more people moving out of state,yea thats just what ohio needs,dancers are people to,guess what some even file taxes,yea didn't know that did ya,bartenders to,and they get penty of money from the owners,guess they'll just have to move to another state and give them the money, ohio doesn't need it,we dont mind being one of the poorest state in the country.
Are there not more pressing issues in Ohio? Here's a thought, take off your Mickey Mouse ears and start addressing REAL issues that are facing your constituents. Jobs, education, health care, the elderly....No one is forced to work in, or walk in these establishments. Most of these women are supporting themselves. So let's take that away, so they can enroll in welfare and tax an already over burdened system. Wake up, the criminal element does not exists because of these clubs. We are losing jobs to other countries and not helping create or replace them with new ones. Spend your time on that...and stop wasting my tax dollars.....
This is typical for this state. lets make laws that hurt Cleveland's convention business in the name of morality. Doesn't the legislature have real work to do.
So much for "Land of the Free"
This is absurd! Putting aside the obvious questions of governments taking over our lives and going too far--what about the economy? People spend money in adult stores after midnight and there are so many strip clubs open because they can stay in business. Ohio is having enough problems keeping businesses here, but we allow our lawmakers to force even more money out of town.
AS far as I am concerned all the strip clubs should close as well as the adult video stores. What a waste of time and money, what kind of a nation have we become. If this nation spent less time on immoral activities they would have more time for the important things in life.
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This whole state is absurd. It's the same, if not worse than, living in the "Bible Belt." I can't wait to get out of here and live in a state where it doesn't snow year round and rednecks do not rule! My friends made fun of me when I moved here a few years ago from the East Coast - I guess they were right!
The group in Cincinnati that is pushing the lawmakers for this ban (Citizens for Community Values) should worry about the conservatives in their own part of the state and leave the rest of us alone. I am sick and tired of these bible thumpers telling me what's good for me. These people couldn't care less about the people they are putting out of work, only care about their pathetic agenda.
Pennsylvania and Michigan already take all of our senior citizens' gambling money since Ohio will not legalize slot machines. They will probably now set up strip clubs just across the border. Cleveland, Akron, Columbus and Cincinnati want to attract conventions? This is no way to do that.
It's intersting, I wonder how many people who want this law past has cheating husbands and wives? Just because they cannot trust their spouses or are insecure about their relationship does not mean that you have to take away our liberites. I agree with most of the people who commented. Is there anything else better for our lawmakers to do? Like fix our population decrease by addressing our economic problems, our education crisis, and our crime rate would be a better thing for our police officers to patrol than how close your cheating husband or wife is to a dancer! OH I forgot Cleveland's finest are still in the process of being laid off! So how do you plan to control this law? Maybe we can find a way to control it with "high tech" red light censors, that continually break! Another toilet flushing my tax dollars. And for the record, I am not a dancer but will stand by them against this pathetic attempt to control our freedoms.
And as I am reading these comments, it's actually a funny thing, you can't get an STD by watching a girl dance, idiot, take a health class and brush up on your facts. And yes I do agree that some commenters need to spell check and preview before posting. I live in AMERICA, LAND OF THE FREE. You know what our founding fathers based this country on! Further more; how do they plan on employing all the young women, and bar tenders, managers, cooks, and security after it becomes impossible to provide for their families? We are loosing jobs at a very high rate, and building a shopping strip isn't going to help much either. Again another reason why people are living this state. And they shouldn't push our "problems" onto another state. We pay our law-makers to HELP our society not dictate our social lives. Also, if they think that only the degenerates or lower classes of the society go to these clubs they are WRONG. For some people it is a place for a social gathering!
I agree there are ALOT of other 'more important' issues out there, but- it's not a bad thing. It protects the 'entertainers' and the patrons. My personal opinion agrees with the law enforcement people who have already blogged. If it was YOUR neighborhood - you may feel differently about the issue. For those so concerned about funding Ohio schools- how about patrons paying an 'extra fee' to sit closer than 6 ft- then all that money goes directly to the schools?? If you're that concerned- save your little dollar bills and make a nice donation to your local school district.
This is ridiculous, you can't smoke, you can't do anything anymore. Leave things as they are. Soon we won't be able to go out of our houses without permission, come on these jerks need to get real and stop messing with OUR rights. Why don't they kill the ones on death row in 48 hours. you think keeping them on death row for years saves money.. they need to just get a grip and get a life and leave OURS alone.
I think its good to close at midnite but as far as the distance YEA right in who's world! Lap dances are the girls best way of getting money to support themselves and their families
Two words: George Orwell
Wow, Is this what we elected out State Officals to do.. Worry about strip clubs, smoking bans, etc. while doing nothing about the Oil companies Gourging the people of Ohio.. Plus doing nothing about our schools...
I think this is riiculous. I am a dancer at a bikini bar when I am on the floor I am clothe more then I would be then if I were at the beach, the girls in the clubs dance obviously because they do not care if they are close to a guy and you dont have to dance for someone that you dont want to, never when I have been at work do I feel unsafe all the girls are required to stay till everyone leaves and we are escorted to our cars by a bouncer to ensure our safety. if you dont like a strip club then stay home. but dont try to change things becuase you dont like it that your husband comes to get a dance, besides a lot of the girls I work with are in realtionships an dont want your husban anyway.
This is a violationb of peoples rights! Its not like people are made to go into these establihments, but go there out of their own free will.... First a smoking ban was introduced and I understand that because someone who wants to go to a non-smoking restuarant was made to be in it no matter what, but a strip club or adult bookstore? Thats someones chioce, you arent made to go there if you dont want to...I mean come on people whats next cancelling sports on televison because someone doesnt like baseball or football...People need to get a life!
Tell the governor what you think about this issue. I for one am disgusted that this is even being considered when the real issues facing Ohio are being ignored. This is a classic example of a vocal minority pushing their views on the majority.
http://apps.das.ohio.gov/govpublic/contact.aspx
Are you kidding me? Glad we got that out of the way. Now maybe we can work on education issues or bringing better jobs to Cleveland. How we live our lives and how we spend our money is our business, not these politicians, and certainly not a christian group. One of the founding principle of this country was freedom of religion,which means you find God your way and I'll find salvation in my way. Hey future politicians...when you are planning an election, instead of working on how your picture is gonna turn out for your signs, how about working on issues that relate to the people that vote you in and not the special interest.
I think that this is awaist of tax payers money. Do you really think that its going to become a law. There is to much money in the night clubs. Why not use the time to do something about ohio schools and jobs. My kids school is being closed this year because there isn;t enough money to fix it. But yYet there is enough to argue about how far a dancer should be away from a person. Come on people get real. As Law makers you are suppost to be smart enough to now what is worth fighting for and what isn't.
Just courious. What are lawmakers doing about schools being closed through lack of funding. they waste time on this bowl of crock and walk in a wide circle around important issues. I don't go to strip clubs myself, but from what I understand, many of the women working in those establishments are just trying to better themselves. What percentage of them are single mothers or young college students. If lawmakers have such a moral issue with the existence of such a practice, maybe they should work on creating more jobs. it is hard for anyone to get an appropriate paying job much less those with restrictions on hours. These lawmakers should get over themselves and leave the clubs alone. If their wives have a problem with them being at a strip club, then they can just hit their husband over the head with a frying pan. Or better yet, say no. The men will get the message eventually. Get your minds out of the gutter, elected officials, and do what your paid by the people of Ohio to do. Make relevant laws, its not the time of prohibition.
got to love this country, freedom? whats that mean. our goverment has nothing better to do than effect some woman maybe supporting her family or working her way through school. good job congress. maybe you should pay for there education since you cant get that issue right. its time we tell these a------s what to do with there time.
Are you kidding me already !! I'm a single mother and bar owner who has just about lost her income because of the smoking ban. Now this ??? OHIO wake up alredy !!! We have much bigger problems than who is smoking where and if someone gets a lap dance or not. The last time I checked there was supposed to be a seperation between church and state ! This is totally initiated by over moral church goers. Hey you go to church? That's fine but leave the rest of us alone already. I like to drink my beer, smoke my cigs and see strippers.... and I'm a woman. If I want to go to hell in a hand basket let me already (if I believed in any of that crap ). I plan to get out of this state as quickly as I possibly can and move to a non commmunist state that is not over run by politics that directly relate to someones religious beliefs. Isn't this the land of the free? Didn't the pilgrims come here because they didn't want somone to tell them what they should believe. I think we all need to jump the boat out of here.... and leave all these christian/communists to their own demise !!!!!
HEY EVERYONE..... LISTEN UP CONGRESS IS SO CRUPTED !!!!
BY LAW THEY CAN NOT COMBINE CHURCH & STATE IT'S IN THE CONSTITUTION !!!! THEES PEOPLE WHO WANTED THIS DAMN LAW TO PASS WERE A RELIGIOUS GROUP THEREFOR THEY TRIED TO COMBIME CHURCH & STATE & THE HOUSE PASSED IT JUST SO THEY WON'T HAVE TO HERE THEM COMPLAIN !!!! THAT & WELL THERE PROBLY GAY OR CAN'T GET LAID
Yeah forget about high gas prices, lets ban lap dances. Political bullcrap.
let the lap dances continue. those that don't want them shouldn't go to the clubs.
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